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  • A Anton Afanasyev

    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

    its very depressing how kids these days generally are totally dead set against reading.

    I don't think its 'against reading'. Its just that they find other things (watching movies, online chats/games, etc) more entertaining and _more useful_.

    :badger:

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    Could be. But to be honest, there is that certain something that comes with reading that you won't find with anything else. And I don't mean glasses ;p

    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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      With the exam? Thank fully, I'm one of the best 3 students in the class. Unfortunately, the examiner had a bone to pick with us. I think I managed to pass along with 3 others. All in all, I think I'll get a grade higher than C in the subject. About 17 other students will have failed miserably. It was a tough exam compounded by a terrible teacher and a lack of study resources.

      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      I think I managed to pass along with 3 others.

      Here's hoping.

      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      a tough exam compounded by a terrible teacher and a lack of study resources

      That's always the way unfortunately. Have an idiot teaching the subject, and you have a hard time getting them out of the job. Well, good luck anyway.

      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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        Seriously, it costs me $50 ontop of what my insurance pays, I'm there 45mins and it consits of this "How has your back been" "Very painful" "Have you done the excercises?" "Yes" "Ok this week I want you to try these different excercises" She then gets me in all sorts of wierd positions and tells me they are excersises. After a month of this, doing my excersises and not doing any physical work at all im weeks behind where I need to be with renovations, I have the electrician coming thursday and still need to cut about a dozen holes in the floor and walls for him, the lawn hasnt been mowed and I walk like an old woman.

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        Lost User
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        ...she's in Lidcombe, which should be less than 20 minutes from where you are, Annandale if memory serves me correctly.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        • C Christian Graus

          OK, so this has not been my day. I woke up this morning, got in the shower, washed my hair, and grabbed the conditioner. Not much left, so I shook the bottle to bring it all down. My back siezed up. As in, I needed help getting out of the shower, and could hardly move. So, I spent the day getting to physio and getting checked out. I am online against his orders, just checking my mail, etc. So, my wireless modem died a couple of weeks ago. It takes a week for Telstra to send a replacement modem, so I had to sign up for a whole new 3 year account to stay online for that time. I changed modem model to a faster one when I did this, which I also made clear to all the people I spoke to. When I bought my second modem, before they turned off the first one, I found it does not plug into my aerial. I called them, they said they would send the adapter. I have called twice to confirm it was on the way. In the meantime, I was told by one department that Telstra does not sell them, I need to buy it myself. For $50 from a company in rural NSW who have antiquated systems, so it's a PITA to buy from them and that will also take a week to get here. So, I wait for the one that Telstra say they sent. Today the second modem came. No adapter. I call Telstra, they say it is on the way. I say it's taking too long, they put me on hold, and eventually tell me it's leaving Wed. I said that their systems are a disaster if they tell them that it's been sent when it hasn't. She says 'there are many departments in Telstra, we can't be expected to master them all'. The system is not broken, she's just not from the 'reading the screen' department ? I've also had someone tell me that they are the first line of support who can only answer simple questions and when I asked who the second line was, I was told there isn't one. The levels of retardation astound me. Perhaps I'm just cranky because I am in pain, but I don't see how anyone can run a business like this. It also turns out I am able to cancel that second account, even tho I've been told I can't.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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          ToddHileHoffer
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          That's a little harsh. Are they completely incompetent? Yes. Scum? No. Just remember this when you make a mistake at work. How we really shouldn't take life so seriously. I'm sure they don't. Also, before you injured your back, were you exercising much? Sitting at a desk all day with out exercising will cause you much more trouble then just your back.

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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            I think I managed to pass along with 3 others.

            Here's hoping.

            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            a tough exam compounded by a terrible teacher and a lack of study resources

            That's always the way unfortunately. Have an idiot teaching the subject, and you have a hard time getting them out of the job. Well, good luck anyway.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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            Cheers :beer: Well, to give the devil his due, he has an incredibly solid understanding of the subject(s) and is a wonderful mathematician. But he fails miserably at teaching. What saddens me is that the other subject, I'm most likely getting an A. It would really suck if this one fails. I now know that I have to study like a tank for all my other subjects. I need to graduate with a good standing if I want to do my PhD eventually. Here's hoping!

            "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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            • T ToddHileHoffer

              That's a little harsh. Are they completely incompetent? Yes. Scum? No. Just remember this when you make a mistake at work. How we really shouldn't take life so seriously. I'm sure they don't. Also, before you injured your back, were you exercising much? Sitting at a desk all day with out exercising will cause you much more trouble then just your back.

              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              ToddHileHoffer wrote:

              Also, before you injured your back, were you exercising much? Sitting at a desk all day with out exercising will cause you much more trouble then just your back.

              That is very true. My back pain only eased up after I started taking walks and doing some mild aerobic exercises. Till now if I miss out on more than 1 "session" I feel the pain creeping back in to my back, neck and shoulders.

              "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                Cheers :beer: Well, to give the devil his due, he has an incredibly solid understanding of the subject(s) and is a wonderful mathematician. But he fails miserably at teaching. What saddens me is that the other subject, I'm most likely getting an A. It would really suck if this one fails. I now know that I have to study like a tank for all my other subjects. I need to graduate with a good standing if I want to do my PhD eventually. Here's hoping!

                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                he has an incredibly solid understanding of the subject(s) and is a wonderful mathematician. But he fails miserably at teaching.

                His ability at the subject isn't the issue. If he can't pass this knowledge on then he can't do the job - period.

                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  he has an incredibly solid understanding of the subject(s) and is a wonderful mathematician. But he fails miserably at teaching.

                  His ability at the subject isn't the issue. If he can't pass this knowledge on then he can't do the job - period.

                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                  My blog | My articles

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                  With you on that one 100%. Did you know I've been constantly trying to log in so I can respond but the sight keeps on telling me: -- Unable to load messages due to high load or server error. Please try again -- I'm telling Chris.

                  "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                    How many people actually get the reference of your user name?

                    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                    Dan Neely
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                    best RAH book ever written. :)

                    Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                      Seriously, it costs me $50 ontop of what my insurance pays, I'm there 45mins and it consits of this "How has your back been" "Very painful" "Have you done the excercises?" "Yes" "Ok this week I want you to try these different excercises" She then gets me in all sorts of wierd positions and tells me they are excersises. After a month of this, doing my excersises and not doing any physical work at all im weeks behind where I need to be with renovations, I have the electrician coming thursday and still need to cut about a dozen holes in the floor and walls for him, the lawn hasnt been mowed and I walk like an old woman.

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                      Chris Meech
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                      Try Yoga. It was my silver bullet for chronic back pain. I stopped all my running, biking, swiming and limited myself to just a single 60 minute session once a week over a six month period. All my pain went away. I went back to swimming. I added running and then added my biking back in. I know for a lot of agonies, you have to search till you find the one thing that works for you. I got lucky with yoga. :)

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                      • M Mycroft Holmes

                        Ahh you see I got it from and early RAH novel, I think I should have used Manny :|

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        Then'd have to smack you with number four arm.


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                        • T ToddHileHoffer

                          That's a little harsh. Are they completely incompetent? Yes. Scum? No. Just remember this when you make a mistake at work. How we really shouldn't take life so seriously. I'm sure they don't. Also, before you injured your back, were you exercising much? Sitting at a desk all day with out exercising will cause you much more trouble then just your back.

                          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                          Christian Graus
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                          ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                          That's a little harsh

                          Perhaps if I told you the full list of problems I've had with them over the years, all the ways they have inconvenienced me and screwed me over, you'd agree with me. Is the person I spoke to scum ? No. I said to her, I don't know how many times I've told a Telstra employee 'I know it's not your fault', but the fact is, it is someone's fault, it's the fault of whoever set up a system designed to not help people, ever.

                          ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                          Also, before you injured your back, were you exercising much?

                          Not this past year, I've not had any time, too much work. I know it's a recipe for disaster, I used to swim a lot, but I no longer work anywhere near a pool.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                            Could be. But to be honest, there is that certain something that comes with reading that you won't find with anything else. And I don't mean glasses ;p

                            "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                            Anton Afanasyev
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                            Fully agree. Nothing beats a quality book.;)

                            :badger:

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