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  • P Paul Watson

    What is with 17" laptops? I find even a 15" too big. Your battery life will suffer, your back will suffer, you have to find more room (planes, trains and automobiles etc.) and you are invariably forced to carry it around in a Humvee sized backpack. I have two 19" monitors at work that I plug my laptop into everyday and do the bulk of my work on. Everywhere else the 15" screen suffices and makes it easy to slip into a thin neoprene case that can tuck under my arm and into seat-back pockets. If you work at home then have some monitors at home. Ideally I'd like a 12"/13" screen to make it even more portable.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Andy Brummer wrote:

    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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    "It is allowed on all Hands, that the primitive way of breaking Eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger End: But his present Majesty's Grand-father, while he was a Boy, going to eat an Egg, and breaking it according to the ancient Practice, happened to cut one of his Fingers. Whereupon the Emperor his Father published an Edict, commanding all his Subjects, upon great Penaltys, to break the smaller End of their Eggs. The People so highly resented this Law, that our Histories tell us there have been six Rebellions raised on that account; wherein one Emperor lost his Life, and another his Crown. These civil Commotions were constantly fomented by the Monarchs of Blefuscu; and when they were quelled, the Exiles always fled for Refuge to that Empire. It is computed, that eleven thousand Persons have, at several times, suffered Death, rather than submit to break their Eggs at the smaller End. Many hundred large Volumes have been published upon this Controversy: But the books of the Big-Endians have been long forbidden, and the whole Party rendered incapable by Law of holding Employments. During the Course of these Troubles, the Emperors of Blefuscu did frequently expostulate by their Ambassadors, accusing us of making a Schism in Religion, by offending against a fundamental Doctrine of our great Prophet Lustrog, in the fifty-fourth Chapter of the Brundrecal (which is their Alcoran.) This, however, is thought to be a meer Strain upon the Text: For the Words are these: That all true Believers shall break their Eggs at the convenient End: and which is the convenient End, seems, in my humble Opinion, to be left to every Man's Conscience, or at least in the power of the Chief Magistrate to determine." :)

    "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.

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      "It is allowed on all Hands, that the primitive way of breaking Eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger End: But his present Majesty's Grand-father, while he was a Boy, going to eat an Egg, and breaking it according to the ancient Practice, happened to cut one of his Fingers. Whereupon the Emperor his Father published an Edict, commanding all his Subjects, upon great Penaltys, to break the smaller End of their Eggs. The People so highly resented this Law, that our Histories tell us there have been six Rebellions raised on that account; wherein one Emperor lost his Life, and another his Crown. These civil Commotions were constantly fomented by the Monarchs of Blefuscu; and when they were quelled, the Exiles always fled for Refuge to that Empire. It is computed, that eleven thousand Persons have, at several times, suffered Death, rather than submit to break their Eggs at the smaller End. Many hundred large Volumes have been published upon this Controversy: But the books of the Big-Endians have been long forbidden, and the whole Party rendered incapable by Law of holding Employments. During the Course of these Troubles, the Emperors of Blefuscu did frequently expostulate by their Ambassadors, accusing us of making a Schism in Religion, by offending against a fundamental Doctrine of our great Prophet Lustrog, in the fifty-fourth Chapter of the Brundrecal (which is their Alcoran.) This, however, is thought to be a meer Strain upon the Text: For the Words are these: That all true Believers shall break their Eggs at the convenient End: and which is the convenient End, seems, in my humble Opinion, to be left to every Man's Conscience, or at least in the power of the Chief Magistrate to determine." :)

      "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.

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      Gulliver's Travels? is that so?

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      • P Programm3r

        Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


        The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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        I just got a new customized HP about a month ago. HP Pavilion dv9500z customizable Notebook PC AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-66 (2.3 GHz, 512KB+512KB L2 Cache ) 17.0" WSXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1680 x 1050) 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 802.11a/b/g/n (draft 802.11n) WLAN and Bluetooth 2x 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support


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          I am sure nobody has pointed it out before, as you would have changed it, but...

          Programm3r wrote:

          The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's

          To Paraphrase Douglas Adams... THAN C Programmers sounds more grammatically correct than That C Pro...etc I understand it is a typo, not a thinko, so I will not burn too deeply! :-D

          ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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          Hi Dalek, Strange this is that I have used this sig for the past year and nine months, and now all of a sudden everyone is making a big fuss over my sig, but no worries, I won't become a cry baby over it, just wanted to point out some facts. Regards,


          The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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            I just got a new customized HP about a month ago. HP Pavilion dv9500z customizable Notebook PC AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-66 (2.3 GHz, 512KB+512KB L2 Cache ) 17.0" WSXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1680 x 1050) 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 802.11a/b/g/n (draft 802.11n) WLAN and Bluetooth 2x 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support


            only two letters away from being an asset

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            Being an AMD man myself ... I like the specs above :) Regards,


            The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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              Gulliver's Travels? is that so?

              ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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              That it be, that it be :)

              "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.

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              • P Paul Watson

                What is with 17" laptops? I find even a 15" too big. Your battery life will suffer, your back will suffer, you have to find more room (planes, trains and automobiles etc.) and you are invariably forced to carry it around in a Humvee sized backpack. I have two 19" monitors at work that I plug my laptop into everyday and do the bulk of my work on. Everywhere else the 15" screen suffices and makes it easy to slip into a thin neoprene case that can tuck under my arm and into seat-back pockets. If you work at home then have some monitors at home. Ideally I'd like a 12"/13" screen to make it even more portable.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                Andy Brummer wrote:

                Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                Actually my 17" HP is doesn't weight that much (maybe 2.5kg), it is as thin as most, and the the battery can last 2+ hours


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                • P Programm3r

                  Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


                  The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                  What about TOSHIBA notebooks? Any one in particular any good ??


                  The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Gulliver's Travels? is that so?

                    ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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                    I think it is like the email spam you get which starts with a passage from a book and then tries to sell you viagra.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Andy Brummer wrote:

                    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                      Actually my 17" HP is doesn't weight that much (maybe 2.5kg), it is as thin as most, and the the battery can last 2+ hours


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                      How do you carry it around?

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        I think it is like the email spam you get which starts with a passage from a book and then tries to sell you viagra.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Andy Brummer wrote:

                        Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                        How much viagra have you bought recently? or is it just a free way of reading stories? And surely they should be Sex fantasy tales, not classics? I mean "The Old Curiosity Shop" does not necessarily get you thinking you can't manage to get one on? Whereas "Swedish Housewives go Lingerie Shopping" may just help! :)

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                          How much viagra have you bought recently? or is it just a free way of reading stories? And surely they should be Sex fantasy tales, not classics? I mean "The Old Curiosity Shop" does not necessarily get you thinking you can't manage to get one on? Whereas "Swedish Housewives go Lingerie Shopping" may just help! :)

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Whereas "Swedish Housewives go Lingerie Shopping" may just help!

                          Yah but then the spam blocker kicks in. It has to be Dickens or something equally dry. Though they replace all occurences of "gay" with "happy."

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                            Being an AMD man myself ... I like the specs above :) Regards,


                            The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                            Yep, I can run two VM's and VS2008, with SQL Server 2005 in the background, with only a small blip in the RAM and CPU monitor.


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                            • P Programm3r

                              Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


                              The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                              I used to use a laptop at my last job. It was a toshiba and it was really heavy. What a pain. Currently I do all my development on a dual processor desktop. When I work form home I use remote desktop. It works great. Now my current laptop is light and small, but it doen't matter because it rarely leaves the dinning room table.

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                                How do you carry it around?

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                Andy Brummer wrote:

                                Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                                I use my hands. Tried carrying it with my feet, but that didn't work too well, kept tripping. ;P


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                                  I used to use a laptop at my last job. It was a toshiba and it was really heavy. What a pain. Currently I do all my development on a dual processor desktop. When I work form home I use remote desktop. It works great. Now my current laptop is light and small, but it doen't matter because it rarely leaves the dinning room table.

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                                  Todd, that sounds like some sound advice. Sticking to a desktop might be the best option I think. And lets face it, no notebook can come close to the performance delivered by a desktop PC. Thanks for the advice and reply Regards,


                                  The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                                    I use my hands. Tried carrying it with my feet, but that didn't work too well, kept tripping. ;P


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                                    :) Cute. Backpack? Suitcase? Double-strength bin liner? (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                      :) Cute. Backpack? Suitcase? Double-strength bin liner? (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                                      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                                      still beats tying a luggage strap to 4U rack-mount computer at 28" deep with a 24" monitor in the other arm.... I have done that for more demonstrations than I care to count. It is rough doing a quick setup for a technology demonstration, with a tech putting up the computer in your 20 minute presentation. They have 10 minutes while you talk, 5 minutes for the demo, 5 minutes for question and and answers. Sure as heck is nice to bring a ready to go laptop, no matter what size. And some people need that kind of power. It all depends on what you develop really. Personally I get eye-strain looking at our old 15.4" laptop. 17" is good, but 19" is better. And once you have hauled a full computer around by the luggage strap, a 19" laptop is a piece of cake!

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      • P Programm3r

                                        Todd, that sounds like some sound advice. Sticking to a desktop might be the best option I think. And lets face it, no notebook can come close to the performance delivered by a desktop PC. Thanks for the advice and reply Regards,


                                        The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                                        You are welcome. Good luck.

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                                          :) Cute. Backpack? Suitcase? Double-strength bin liner? (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                                          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                                          I have a Swiss Gear backpack. 2.5kg is better than the 7kg beast I had been using.


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