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  • P Paul Watson

    What is with 17" laptops? I find even a 15" too big. Your battery life will suffer, your back will suffer, you have to find more room (planes, trains and automobiles etc.) and you are invariably forced to carry it around in a Humvee sized backpack. I have two 19" monitors at work that I plug my laptop into everyday and do the bulk of my work on. Everywhere else the 15" screen suffices and makes it easy to slip into a thin neoprene case that can tuck under my arm and into seat-back pockets. If you work at home then have some monitors at home. Ideally I'd like a 12"/13" screen to make it even more portable.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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    Actually my 17" HP is doesn't weight that much (maybe 2.5kg), it is as thin as most, and the the battery can last 2+ hours


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    • P Programm3r

      Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


      The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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      Programm3r
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      What about TOSHIBA notebooks? Any one in particular any good ??


      The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Gulliver's Travels? is that so?

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        Paul Watson
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        I think it is like the email spam you get which starts with a passage from a book and then tries to sell you viagra.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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          Actually my 17" HP is doesn't weight that much (maybe 2.5kg), it is as thin as most, and the the battery can last 2+ hours


          only two letters away from being an asset

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          How do you carry it around?

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Andy Brummer wrote:

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          • P Paul Watson

            I think it is like the email spam you get which starts with a passage from a book and then tries to sell you viagra.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Andy Brummer wrote:

            Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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            Dalek Dave
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            How much viagra have you bought recently? or is it just a free way of reading stories? And surely they should be Sex fantasy tales, not classics? I mean "The Old Curiosity Shop" does not necessarily get you thinking you can't manage to get one on? Whereas "Swedish Housewives go Lingerie Shopping" may just help! :)

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              How much viagra have you bought recently? or is it just a free way of reading stories? And surely they should be Sex fantasy tales, not classics? I mean "The Old Curiosity Shop" does not necessarily get you thinking you can't manage to get one on? Whereas "Swedish Housewives go Lingerie Shopping" may just help! :)

              ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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              Paul Watson
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              Whereas "Swedish Housewives go Lingerie Shopping" may just help!

              Yah but then the spam blocker kicks in. It has to be Dickens or something equally dry. Though they replace all occurences of "gay" with "happy."

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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              • P Programm3r

                Being an AMD man myself ... I like the specs above :) Regards,


                The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                Yep, I can run two VM's and VS2008, with SQL Server 2005 in the background, with only a small blip in the RAM and CPU monitor.


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                • P Programm3r

                  Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


                  The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                  ToddHileHoffer
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                  I used to use a laptop at my last job. It was a toshiba and it was really heavy. What a pain. Currently I do all my development on a dual processor desktop. When I work form home I use remote desktop. It works great. Now my current laptop is light and small, but it doen't matter because it rarely leaves the dinning room table.

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    How do you carry it around?

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Andy Brummer wrote:

                    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                    I use my hands. Tried carrying it with my feet, but that didn't work too well, kept tripping. ;P


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                    • T ToddHileHoffer

                      I used to use a laptop at my last job. It was a toshiba and it was really heavy. What a pain. Currently I do all my development on a dual processor desktop. When I work form home I use remote desktop. It works great. Now my current laptop is light and small, but it doen't matter because it rarely leaves the dinning room table.

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                      Programm3r
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                      Todd, that sounds like some sound advice. Sticking to a desktop might be the best option I think. And lets face it, no notebook can come close to the performance delivered by a desktop PC. Thanks for the advice and reply Regards,


                      The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                        I use my hands. Tried carrying it with my feet, but that didn't work too well, kept tripping. ;P


                        only two letters away from being an asset

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                        Paul Watson
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                        :) Cute. Backpack? Suitcase? Double-strength bin liner? (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                          :) Cute. Backpack? Suitcase? Double-strength bin liner? (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Andy Brummer wrote:

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                          El Corazon
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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                          still beats tying a luggage strap to 4U rack-mount computer at 28" deep with a 24" monitor in the other arm.... I have done that for more demonstrations than I care to count. It is rough doing a quick setup for a technology demonstration, with a tech putting up the computer in your 20 minute presentation. They have 10 minutes while you talk, 5 minutes for the demo, 5 minutes for question and and answers. Sure as heck is nice to bring a ready to go laptop, no matter what size. And some people need that kind of power. It all depends on what you develop really. Personally I get eye-strain looking at our old 15.4" laptop. 17" is good, but 19" is better. And once you have hauled a full computer around by the luggage strap, a 19" laptop is a piece of cake!

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          • P Programm3r

                            Todd, that sounds like some sound advice. Sticking to a desktop might be the best option I think. And lets face it, no notebook can come close to the performance delivered by a desktop PC. Thanks for the advice and reply Regards,


                            The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                            ToddHileHoffer
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                            You are welcome. Good luck.

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                            • P Paul Watson

                              :) Cute. Backpack? Suitcase? Double-strength bin liner? (2.5kg is good for a 17" laptop but still too heavy for a portable computer, IMO.)

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Andy Brummer wrote:

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                              I have a Swiss Gear backpack. 2.5kg is better than the 7kg beast I had been using.


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                              • P Programm3r

                                What about TOSHIBA notebooks? Any one in particular any good ??


                                The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                                David Crow
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                                I bought a Toshiba A215-7416 over the weekend. I like it, but can't stand the touchpad.

                                "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

                                "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                                • P Programm3r

                                  Todd, that sounds like some sound advice. Sticking to a desktop might be the best option I think. And lets face it, no notebook can come close to the performance delivered by a desktop PC. Thanks for the advice and reply Regards,


                                  The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                                  El Corazon
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                                  Programm3r wrote:

                                  no notebook can come close to the performance delivered by a desktop PC

                                  That depends on the desktop, and the notebook.... Purchased for a customer: Core2 duo 2.33ghz RAID0 x2 200gb 7200rpm drives 4gb memory dual graphics chips in SLI 17" 1920x1200 LCD sadly... the most we ever got in-house was a 17" hyperthread just before the core2 was released; we purchased one 19" but it was not dual core and not for us either. But we take what we can get. :-D

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  • E El Corazon

                                    did someone order the psychodelic cactus... peyote for the fish!

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    Paul Conrad
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                                    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

                                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                    • P Programm3r

                                      Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


                                      The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                                      Martin Pollard
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                                      Got myself a Dell Vostro 1500 a few months back. XP SP2 (very important!), Intel Core2 Duo (I forget the speed but I know I went faster than the minimum), 2GB RAM, 160GB HDD (5400 RPM but 7200 is available), 15" LCD (1680x1050 works real nice with VS), extended life battery, CD/DVD burner, WiFi, Ethernet, the whole enchilada. I could've gone with one of those comes-in-a-rainbow-of-colors Inspirons, but I wanted something a little more serious. :) (Besides, the Vostro turned out to be less expensive when I went through the whole customization process on both, plus it was one of the few models that clearly and unambiguously stated that XP was available as an option.) As I said, I've only had it a few months now, but I'm very satisfied, and it's quite perky for development. I'd imagine that a 7200 RPM drive would be even moreso, but I went with battery life over speed.

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                                      • P Programm3r

                                        Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


                                        The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                                        Andy_L_J
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                                        I use an Inspiron 1720, 2 X 160Gb Drives, 3Mb Ram, 17" screen, Graphics card - sweet dev platform.

                                        I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                                        • P Programm3r

                                          Hi all, I guess this is a question that is asked a lot, but I just cannot make up my mind. I really like developing on a desktop but require the ease and accessibility of a laptop. So what laptop would be the best for development purposes, and be capable of running Visual Studio 2K5 | 2K8 with a database in the background with some ease. :confused: Thanks in advance Regards, Someone looking for a good laptop :)


                                          The only programmers that are better that C programmers are those who code in 1's and 0's :bob: :)Programm3r My Blog: ^_^

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                                          martin_hughes
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                                          Due to an unfortunate motherboard incident, I've had to revert to my Inspiron 9200 - happily, VS2008 runs far faster than VS2005 ever did on it!

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