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  • C Chris Maunder

    1. A new property Control.DontOutputIdAttribute 2. A new property Page.DontPrefixAllMyControlsWithTheIdOfAllTheirAncestors

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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    Wouldn't that defeat the unique IDs for DOM elements?

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    • C Chris Maunder

      1. A new property Control.DontOutputIdAttribute 2. A new property Page.DontPrefixAllMyControlsWithTheIdOfAllTheirAncestors

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Oakman
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      Absolutely! these two "MSFT knows better" behaviors are infuriating.

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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      • C Chris Maunder

        1. A new property Control.DontOutputIdAttribute 2. A new property Page.DontPrefixAllMyControlsWithTheIdOfAllTheirAncestors

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        leppie
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        What stops you from using non-'runat=server' controls?

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          What stops you from using non-'runat=server' controls?

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          IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out now

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          Paul Selormey
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          Hmmmm, trully they are actually there :sigh: Best regards, Paul.

          Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

          modified on Friday, February 01, 2008 5:06:06 AM

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            Hmmmm, trully they are actually there :sigh: Best regards, Paul.

            Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

            modified on Friday, February 01, 2008 5:06:06 AM

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            leppie
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            Paul Selormey wrote:

            they are actually there

            I dont understand what you mean. :confused:

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            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out now

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              Paul Selormey wrote:

              they are actually there

              I dont understand what you mean. :confused:

              xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
              IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out now

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              Paul Selormey
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              The non-runat-server controls are actually there. Simply most put up the .NET cup when working with ASP.NET without forgetting that they simply writing HTML with replaceable tags. Best regards, Paul.

              Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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              • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                Wouldn't that defeat the unique IDs for DOM elements?

                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                Tech Gossips
                A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                Chris Maunder
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                Not if Page.TrustMeIKnowWhatImDoing was set to true.

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  What stops you from using non-'runat=server' controls?

                  xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
                  IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out now

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  I had about a dozen witty replies to this but I have to say I'm truly curious as to what the alternative would be in an ASP.NET site.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    I had about a dozen witty replies to this but I have to say I'm truly curious as to what the alternative would be in an ASP.NET site.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    leppie
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                    :~ I think I had 'stupid' for breakfast, I don't understand any reply today! :sigh:

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I had about a dozen witty replies to this but I have to say I'm truly curious as to what the alternative would be in an ASP.NET site.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      Mike Dimmick
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                      Use ASP.NET as a compiled ASP, I imagine. Don't use any built-in ASP.NET controls, just use it to spew tag soup. You gain absolute control over the HTML output, at the cost of having to take complete control over the output.

                      DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Not if Page.TrustMeIKnowWhatImDoing was set to true.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                        Mladen Jankovic
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                        Then you should write your code on bare metal. ;P

                        Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I had about a dozen witty replies to this but I have to say I'm truly curious as to what the alternative would be in an ASP.NET site.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Daniel Turini
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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          I had about a dozen witty replies to this but I have to say I'm truly curious as to what the alternative would be in an ASP.NET site.

                          Hey, can't you read things in red? Don't post programming questions on The Lounge! :-D

                          I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            1. A new property Control.DontOutputIdAttribute 2. A new property Page.DontPrefixAllMyControlsWithTheIdOfAllTheirAncestors

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            Yes! I don't add an id attribute to the control unless you want it to be accessed from code behind. The naming containers come into action and generate a scope prefixed name. In general you can avoid ids for all controls except for form controls. Alternatively you can use control adapters. I am feeling encouraged to write an article: "Avoiding the id mess in ASP.NET"

                            You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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                              Not if Page.TrustMeIKnowWhatImDoing was set to true.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder

                              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                              dabs
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                              Aha, the Sledge Hammer property :-)


                              Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

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                                Yes! I don't add an id attribute to the control unless you want it to be accessed from code behind. The naming containers come into action and generate a scope prefixed name. In general you can avoid ids for all controls except for form controls. Alternatively you can use control adapters. I am feeling encouraged to write an article: "Avoiding the id mess in ASP.NET"

                                You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                Avoiding the id mess in ASP.NET

                                Please do!

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                  Absolutely! these two "MSFT knows better" behaviors are infuriating.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  What about having to keep specifying Runat="Server" when there is no option?

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    Yes! I don't add an id attribute to the control unless you want it to be accessed from code behind. The naming containers come into action and generate a scope prefixed name. In general you can avoid ids for all controls except for form controls. Alternatively you can use control adapters. I am feeling encouraged to write an article: "Avoiding the id mess in ASP.NET"

                                    You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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                                    DavidNohejl
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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                    I am feeling encouraged to write an article: "Avoiding the id mess in ASP.NET"

                                    +1


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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      1. A new property Control.DontOutputIdAttribute 2. A new property Page.DontPrefixAllMyControlsWithTheIdOfAllTheirAncestors

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                      Ed Poore
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                                      I know it's more work but can't you write something like the CSS adapters so that you can control these things?

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        1. A new property Control.DontOutputIdAttribute 2. A new property Page.DontPrefixAllMyControlsWithTheIdOfAllTheirAncestors

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                        How about a Silverlight.LeaveMeAlone = TRUE configuration for all browsers while visiting MS website?

                                        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                          Avoiding the id mess in ASP.NET

                                          Please do!

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          Please do!

                                          Ok if you like the article then you have to send me a CP T-Shirt ;P

                                          You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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