Coming to America
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David Wulff wrote: And you seem to be the only one. He's not. Most people here dislike confrontation, and therefore, do not speak up. As for me personally, I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that in any situation he may have said something which is not considered kind. Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans. And they do differ greatly from that of your eastern cohorts. You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts. Placing a footnote doesn't nullify anything. It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie. You try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity. Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post is no excuse. Keep your focus on what's pertinent and not the extra crap around the donut hole. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoOkay Jeremy, I have read your repsonse a good few times, yet I knew the content of *your* post before even reading it. Like John and to a certain degree Martin, the tone is predictable. In fact, I could have put money on it once I saw the author. Now that is out of the way with, you have forced me to make clear, yet again, some very important points: Jeremy Falcon wrote: he may have said something which is not considered kind To keep from repeating myself, please quote me. We are obviouly talking about different things here, and I cannot hope to constructively analyse them unless we agree what it is you find offensive. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans Were you a regular about nine weeks ago - I think so, and I do seem to remember hearing you input to my thread in the R&R setting clear - in stone - this rhetoric bollocks that keeps being trawled into my conversations. Check your e-mail logs; I'm not wasting my time again. Jeremy Falcon wrote: You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts *sigh* Is it really time for yet another reminder that we - these polite and delivcate creatures jokingly known as CPians - continually take the piss out of, milk the jizz from, and rip the shit out of: the Irish, the Frogs, the Aussies, the Kiwis, the Pommes, the Jerrys, the Yanks, the Spanish, and I do beleive just a few threads down we colectively take the piss out of a Brazillian. This image you have of me going round carrying burning US flags is the same one certain unnamed groups of people had in the early 1940's. Jeremy Falcon wrote: It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie I disagree purely on the grounds that it was not a footnote, it was clearly inline with the rest of the text. Others *have* said so. Jeremy Falcon wrote: try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity How, when, and more importantly why? I am proud of the fact that I have never removed nor changed the content of any message posted on these public forums, short of correcting spelling errors. I don't mind arguing on something I have written, but I will not skew the meaning because of my ego! Some people are different I guess. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post i
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Martin Marvinski wrote: I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. There are! I'm American and I say that too. New Orleans is one of the crime capitals of the world and Baton Rouge (where I live) isn't far behind. I don't know how it is past the Caribbean because I have not been further, so I can't speak for the eastern countries. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoJust curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? We don't seem to have much violent crime here, despite the very high poverty rate. Phoenix, of course, has a relatively high level of problems with gangs, but even there the drive-by shootings so common in other big cities are fairly rare. This is one of the few places left that can be properly called the US as we have a great deal of resistance to having our rights taken away from us. We have always been allowed to carry a gun, and the criminals know it. In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now:-) What's it like down there? There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
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David Wulff wrote: We all know what they say about assumptions. They make an ass out of u and umption ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
:rolleyes: Now that just wans't nice Christian, it wasn't nice at all. :laugh:
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David Wulff wrote: And you seem to be the only one. He's not. Most people here dislike confrontation, and therefore, do not speak up. As for me personally, I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that in any situation he may have said something which is not considered kind. Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans. And they do differ greatly from that of your eastern cohorts. You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts. Placing a footnote doesn't nullify anything. It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie. You try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity. Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post is no excuse. Keep your focus on what's pertinent and not the extra crap around the donut hole. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoJeremy Falcon wrote: not the extra crap around the donut hole. Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Chris Losinger wrote: don't bother replying No, I will continue to reply for as long as there is the possibility that someone will skim-read this thread and leave without a full understanding of what was actually being said. Yourself included. I wouldn't expect anything less of anyone else. Chris Losinger wrote: the hell i did "sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook." In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Would you conclude that to mean anything different? Chris Losinger wrote: i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. I did not even mention America, I said a "strongly-American way of thinking". I then went on to say - clearly - that this applied to everyone in the modern world, I even went so far as to deliberately fall back on the mistakes made in/by the British Empire in order to provide people with your mindset a black and white word that didn't have "America" in it. The "footnote", which was not a footnote at all, was added to make it as plain bloody obvious as the nose on the front of my head. Chris Losinger wrote: if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble I didn't. you are the only person still drawing that conclusion. Chris Losinger wrote: i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. Even without that sentance, your derived meaning is hard to draw from the text without conciously disregarding yet more of it. How, if you choose to remove anything which agrees with you, do you ever expect to find agreement on a topic? You are the one with the spade, not me. We all know what they say about assumptions. ;P
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David Wulff wrote: In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Oh, come on David. Your rant was basically the same one you have on your web page, and trot out every chance you get. The bit at the end tempered it, but obviously you didn't want it cutting into your rant excessively, as you segregated it at the end, in small text. Observing this fact obviously does not constitute ignoring the 'footnote'. I seriously doubt anyone is taking this branch seriously (well, except for Jeremy), so could you please try to avoid harping? It seriously hurts the entertainment value...
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Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? We don't seem to have much violent crime here, despite the very high poverty rate. Phoenix, of course, has a relatively high level of problems with gangs, but even there the drive-by shootings so common in other big cities are fairly rare. This is one of the few places left that can be properly called the US as we have a great deal of resistance to having our rights taken away from us. We have always been allowed to carry a gun, and the criminals know it. In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now:-) What's it like down there? There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
Roger Wright wrote: In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now Your area too? :rolleyes: James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
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I'd like to move to America; anywhere north of the 49th parellel would be great. Oh, wait, I'm already there... :laugh: "Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded." -John Carmack [^]
Exactly. I find it funny how americans call themselves americans even though there is a North and South America. Techinically we're all pretty much american in the Western Hemisphere, but don't call anybody american outside the states (at least in Canada), we don't like it (at least I don't). :)
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David Wulff wrote: how can one hate a piece of land? Well, there's this little bit outside the parking lot where i work, it dips down *just* enough that if i'm going too fast while leaving, i'll scrape the underside of my car on it. Yeah, i know, i should learn to be tolerant of it, and appreciate the good it does, such as discouraging people from speeding into the daycare next door, but i just can't. Hate can be a very irrational thing sometimes...
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Shog9 wrote: Well, there's this little bit outside the parking lot where i work, it dips down *just* enough that if i'm going too fast while leaving, i'll scrape the underside of my car on it. Yeah, I know what you mean, there are certain driveways where my car nudges the hard stuff, I just hate it. I'm lifting my suspension an inch and a half to see if I can avoid it now. [Air suspension] Regardz Colin J Davies
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Well, I already live here and I'm probably one of the looneys with guns, but hey, I'm always open to more money! How much are you offering? :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: and I'm probably one of the looneys with guns I suspected as much. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Exactly. I find it funny how americans call themselves americans even though there is a North and South America. Techinically we're all pretty much american in the Western Hemisphere, but don't call anybody american outside the states (at least in Canada), we don't like it (at least I don't). :)
Andrew K wrote: americans call themselves americans even though there is a North and South America That's why I call them Amuricuns. They tend to spell a lot of English words wrong anyway, so what's one more? Andrew K wrote: we don't like it (at least I don't) I'd be insulted. "Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded." -John Carmack [^]
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Lol - yeah! Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?!
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David Wulff wrote: Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?! Yes, of course. In fact, we have 4-day weekends, too. Most spanish people wake up at 10, and after half an hour of bull-fighting and eating "tapas", we go to work for a couple of hours. Of course, we just sit around and get drunk with sangria, party like fools, and go to lunch for three hours (as you suspected). Do not forget that after those three hours we sleep (who has not heard of "siesta"?). At 6 P.M. we go to the beach (ey, "spanish sun" remember?) eat a couple of "paellas", and do some more bull fighting and "sevillanas dancing, olé". We get home about 11 PM. Completely drunk. David, Come on... Regards, R. 8-13 (one hour lunch) 14-18 is quite comon. Of course it depends on your activity, etc.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: not the extra crap around the donut hole. Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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David Wulff wrote: Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?! Yes, of course. In fact, we have 4-day weekends, too. Most spanish people wake up at 10, and after half an hour of bull-fighting and eating "tapas", we go to work for a couple of hours. Of course, we just sit around and get drunk with sangria, party like fools, and go to lunch for three hours (as you suspected). Do not forget that after those three hours we sleep (who has not heard of "siesta"?). At 6 P.M. we go to the beach (ey, "spanish sun" remember?) eat a couple of "paellas", and do some more bull fighting and "sevillanas dancing, olé". We get home about 11 PM. Completely drunk. David, Come on... Regards, R. 8-13 (one hour lunch) 14-18 is quite comon. Of course it depends on your activity, etc.
Ramon Casellas wrote: some more bull fighting I saw all the tourists get wounded again in Pamplona. It's the season again. Every year it's on Dutch TV, so if you're from spain you must be in bullfigting :) Rutger
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David Wulff wrote: The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? David Wulff wrote: We don't have America, we hate Americans Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere. :)
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Christopher Duncan wrote: and I'm probably one of the looneys with guns I suspected as much. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: I suspected as much. :omg: Oops! Blew my cover! Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Okay Jeremy, I have read your repsonse a good few times, yet I knew the content of *your* post before even reading it. Like John and to a certain degree Martin, the tone is predictable. In fact, I could have put money on it once I saw the author. Now that is out of the way with, you have forced me to make clear, yet again, some very important points: Jeremy Falcon wrote: he may have said something which is not considered kind To keep from repeating myself, please quote me. We are obviouly talking about different things here, and I cannot hope to constructively analyse them unless we agree what it is you find offensive. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans Were you a regular about nine weeks ago - I think so, and I do seem to remember hearing you input to my thread in the R&R setting clear - in stone - this rhetoric bollocks that keeps being trawled into my conversations. Check your e-mail logs; I'm not wasting my time again. Jeremy Falcon wrote: You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts *sigh* Is it really time for yet another reminder that we - these polite and delivcate creatures jokingly known as CPians - continually take the piss out of, milk the jizz from, and rip the shit out of: the Irish, the Frogs, the Aussies, the Kiwis, the Pommes, the Jerrys, the Yanks, the Spanish, and I do beleive just a few threads down we colectively take the piss out of a Brazillian. This image you have of me going round carrying burning US flags is the same one certain unnamed groups of people had in the early 1940's. Jeremy Falcon wrote: It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie I disagree purely on the grounds that it was not a footnote, it was clearly inline with the rest of the text. Others *have* said so. Jeremy Falcon wrote: try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity How, when, and more importantly why? I am proud of the fact that I have never removed nor changed the content of any message posted on these public forums, short of correcting spelling errors. I don't mind arguing on something I have written, but I will not skew the meaning because of my ego! Some people are different I guess. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post i
David Wulff wrote: the tone is predictable Yes and no. By now, I'm sure you have an idea of "me", but the most unfortunate thing about the Internet and this way of messaging though is it's difficult to tell the tone a post was written in. I know you don't hate Americans per sé, but it's tiring to hear a line of jokes on the same topic. It's true that Americanism can be borderline religious, but that only means we are different. CG is a Christian; therefore, I don't make jokes about Christianity on CP (or anywhere else for that matter, but that's another point) where I know he could read them. I do hope you realize I wasn't trying to be negative, rude, or whatever with my post. I did want to convey that I mostly agree with Chris though. Nothing more; nothing less. David Wulff wrote: I am proud of the fact that I have never removed nor changed the content of any message posted on these public forums, short of correcting spelling errors. You should be. People that change too much are hard to respect IMHO. David Wulff wrote: Some people are different I guess. You are correct sir! David Wulff wrote: That was my point exactly Jeremy. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: not the extra crap around the donut hole. Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? :omg: Um, maybe I should've used a different analogy. Damn SerGio!!! :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? We don't seem to have much violent crime here, despite the very high poverty rate. Phoenix, of course, has a relatively high level of problems with gangs, but even there the drive-by shootings so common in other big cities are fairly rare. This is one of the few places left that can be properly called the US as we have a great deal of resistance to having our rights taken away from us. We have always been allowed to carry a gun, and the criminals know it. In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now:-) What's it like down there? There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
Roger Wright wrote: Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? I believe we can have a weapon that's registered, but if you conceal it you need a special permit. If it's unregistered they throw you in jail. And, of course, the convicted felon and mental patient thing is the same too. Roger Wright wrote: What's it like down there? Hot and humid. :) Roger Wright wrote: The streets are very safe now It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Roger Wright wrote: Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? I believe we can have a weapon that's registered, but if you conceal it you need a special permit. If it's unregistered they throw you in jail. And, of course, the convicted felon and mental patient thing is the same too. Roger Wright wrote: What's it like down there? Hot and humid. :) Roger Wright wrote: The streets are very safe now It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoJeremy Falcon wrote: It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. So true... One thing I like about our concealed carry law is that you have to return to class every four years and re-certify. It rankles a bit to have any law limiting me, but I see the wisdom in requiring people to stay up to date in the current law. It also affords a chance to identify those few who have become mentally challenged since their last certification, as a new background check is done each time. Instead of marrying again, I think I'll just find a woman I don't like very much and give her a house...
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Martin Marvinski wrote: If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Martin Marvinski wrote: So CG, tell me about your new computer... It's a P4, and it's way cool. I just don't define my life by such things. That doesn't mean I live in a cave, just that it's not the measure of my success in life. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Comparativly speaking - yes - its cheaper than renting when the tax breaks are figured in. Almost anyone that is working fulltime and has a decent credit rating can get a home. And the credit rating thing can be fiddled with. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger