Coming to America
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I'd like to move to America; anywhere north of the 49th parellel would be great. Oh, wait, I'm already there... :laugh: "Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded." -John Carmack [^]
Exactly. I find it funny how americans call themselves americans even though there is a North and South America. Techinically we're all pretty much american in the Western Hemisphere, but don't call anybody american outside the states (at least in Canada), we don't like it (at least I don't). :)
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David Wulff wrote: how can one hate a piece of land? Well, there's this little bit outside the parking lot where i work, it dips down *just* enough that if i'm going too fast while leaving, i'll scrape the underside of my car on it. Yeah, i know, i should learn to be tolerant of it, and appreciate the good it does, such as discouraging people from speeding into the daycare next door, but i just can't. Hate can be a very irrational thing sometimes...
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Shog9 wrote: Well, there's this little bit outside the parking lot where i work, it dips down *just* enough that if i'm going too fast while leaving, i'll scrape the underside of my car on it. Yeah, I know what you mean, there are certain driveways where my car nudges the hard stuff, I just hate it. I'm lifting my suspension an inch and a half to see if I can avoid it now. [Air suspension] Regardz Colin J Davies
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Well, I already live here and I'm probably one of the looneys with guns, but hey, I'm always open to more money! How much are you offering? :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: and I'm probably one of the looneys with guns I suspected as much. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Exactly. I find it funny how americans call themselves americans even though there is a North and South America. Techinically we're all pretty much american in the Western Hemisphere, but don't call anybody american outside the states (at least in Canada), we don't like it (at least I don't). :)
Andrew K wrote: americans call themselves americans even though there is a North and South America That's why I call them Amuricuns. They tend to spell a lot of English words wrong anyway, so what's one more? Andrew K wrote: we don't like it (at least I don't) I'd be insulted. "Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded." -John Carmack [^]
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Lol - yeah! Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?!
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David Wulff wrote: Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?! Yes, of course. In fact, we have 4-day weekends, too. Most spanish people wake up at 10, and after half an hour of bull-fighting and eating "tapas", we go to work for a couple of hours. Of course, we just sit around and get drunk with sangria, party like fools, and go to lunch for three hours (as you suspected). Do not forget that after those three hours we sleep (who has not heard of "siesta"?). At 6 P.M. we go to the beach (ey, "spanish sun" remember?) eat a couple of "paellas", and do some more bull fighting and "sevillanas dancing, olé". We get home about 11 PM. Completely drunk. David, Come on... Regards, R. 8-13 (one hour lunch) 14-18 is quite comon. Of course it depends on your activity, etc.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: not the extra crap around the donut hole. Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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David Wulff wrote: Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?! Yes, of course. In fact, we have 4-day weekends, too. Most spanish people wake up at 10, and after half an hour of bull-fighting and eating "tapas", we go to work for a couple of hours. Of course, we just sit around and get drunk with sangria, party like fools, and go to lunch for three hours (as you suspected). Do not forget that after those three hours we sleep (who has not heard of "siesta"?). At 6 P.M. we go to the beach (ey, "spanish sun" remember?) eat a couple of "paellas", and do some more bull fighting and "sevillanas dancing, olé". We get home about 11 PM. Completely drunk. David, Come on... Regards, R. 8-13 (one hour lunch) 14-18 is quite comon. Of course it depends on your activity, etc.
Ramon Casellas wrote: some more bull fighting I saw all the tourists get wounded again in Pamplona. It's the season again. Every year it's on Dutch TV, so if you're from spain you must be in bullfigting :) Rutger
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David Wulff wrote: The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? David Wulff wrote: We don't have America, we hate Americans Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere. :)
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Christopher Duncan wrote: and I'm probably one of the looneys with guns I suspected as much. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: I suspected as much. :omg: Oops! Blew my cover! Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Okay Jeremy, I have read your repsonse a good few times, yet I knew the content of *your* post before even reading it. Like John and to a certain degree Martin, the tone is predictable. In fact, I could have put money on it once I saw the author. Now that is out of the way with, you have forced me to make clear, yet again, some very important points: Jeremy Falcon wrote: he may have said something which is not considered kind To keep from repeating myself, please quote me. We are obviouly talking about different things here, and I cannot hope to constructively analyse them unless we agree what it is you find offensive. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans Were you a regular about nine weeks ago - I think so, and I do seem to remember hearing you input to my thread in the R&R setting clear - in stone - this rhetoric bollocks that keeps being trawled into my conversations. Check your e-mail logs; I'm not wasting my time again. Jeremy Falcon wrote: You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts *sigh* Is it really time for yet another reminder that we - these polite and delivcate creatures jokingly known as CPians - continually take the piss out of, milk the jizz from, and rip the shit out of: the Irish, the Frogs, the Aussies, the Kiwis, the Pommes, the Jerrys, the Yanks, the Spanish, and I do beleive just a few threads down we colectively take the piss out of a Brazillian. This image you have of me going round carrying burning US flags is the same one certain unnamed groups of people had in the early 1940's. Jeremy Falcon wrote: It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie I disagree purely on the grounds that it was not a footnote, it was clearly inline with the rest of the text. Others *have* said so. Jeremy Falcon wrote: try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity How, when, and more importantly why? I am proud of the fact that I have never removed nor changed the content of any message posted on these public forums, short of correcting spelling errors. I don't mind arguing on something I have written, but I will not skew the meaning because of my ego! Some people are different I guess. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post i
David Wulff wrote: the tone is predictable Yes and no. By now, I'm sure you have an idea of "me", but the most unfortunate thing about the Internet and this way of messaging though is it's difficult to tell the tone a post was written in. I know you don't hate Americans per sé, but it's tiring to hear a line of jokes on the same topic. It's true that Americanism can be borderline religious, but that only means we are different. CG is a Christian; therefore, I don't make jokes about Christianity on CP (or anywhere else for that matter, but that's another point) where I know he could read them. I do hope you realize I wasn't trying to be negative, rude, or whatever with my post. I did want to convey that I mostly agree with Chris though. Nothing more; nothing less. David Wulff wrote: I am proud of the fact that I have never removed nor changed the content of any message posted on these public forums, short of correcting spelling errors. You should be. People that change too much are hard to respect IMHO. David Wulff wrote: Some people are different I guess. You are correct sir! David Wulff wrote: That was my point exactly Jeremy. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: not the extra crap around the donut hole. Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? :omg: Um, maybe I should've used a different analogy. Damn SerGio!!! :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? We don't seem to have much violent crime here, despite the very high poverty rate. Phoenix, of course, has a relatively high level of problems with gangs, but even there the drive-by shootings so common in other big cities are fairly rare. This is one of the few places left that can be properly called the US as we have a great deal of resistance to having our rights taken away from us. We have always been allowed to carry a gun, and the criminals know it. In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now:-) What's it like down there? There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
Roger Wright wrote: Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? I believe we can have a weapon that's registered, but if you conceal it you need a special permit. If it's unregistered they throw you in jail. And, of course, the convicted felon and mental patient thing is the same too. Roger Wright wrote: What's it like down there? Hot and humid. :) Roger Wright wrote: The streets are very safe now It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Roger Wright wrote: Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? I believe we can have a weapon that's registered, but if you conceal it you need a special permit. If it's unregistered they throw you in jail. And, of course, the convicted felon and mental patient thing is the same too. Roger Wright wrote: What's it like down there? Hot and humid. :) Roger Wright wrote: The streets are very safe now It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoJeremy Falcon wrote: It's not guns that kill people; it's the moron behind the gun. So true... One thing I like about our concealed carry law is that you have to return to class every four years and re-certify. It rankles a bit to have any law limiting me, but I see the wisdom in requiring people to stay up to date in the current law. It also affords a chance to identify those few who have become mentally challenged since their last certification, as a new background check is done each time. Instead of marrying again, I think I'll just find a woman I don't like very much and give her a house...
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Martin Marvinski wrote: If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Martin Marvinski wrote: So CG, tell me about your new computer... It's a P4, and it's way cool. I just don't define my life by such things. That doesn't mean I live in a cave, just that it's not the measure of my success in life. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Comparativly speaking - yes - its cheaper than renting when the tax breaks are figured in. Almost anyone that is working fulltime and has a decent credit rating can get a home. And the credit rating thing can be fiddled with. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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Martin Marvinski wrote: What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? But Martin, I can get all of those things and anything else you can think of here in Britian. There is just no reason to move stateside - in fact there are compelling reasons not to considering the differences between our societies. Don't feel too bad - someone had to get the short straw. :-D Martin Marvinski wrote: Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere Don't pick holes in my logic! Okay then, if you insist... let's see if you really have changes since you became a member... I dislike the strongly-American approach to, quite simply, what is right, what is wrong and what is acceptable; the assumptions that are made on others' behalf and the general attitude you convey both to yourselves and to others; the intollerance of extremes and even the pettiest of oppositions; the way you prefer to lie to yourselves than face the truth; and finally I dislike the way you interfere with international relations that quite simply do not concern you - well maybe financially - and whine and bitch if another power tries to do the same to you. Being a modern super-civilisation, I'd have thought you'd have learnt from the mistakes we have both made in the past centuries, and for a nation with a large proportion of it's citizens reportedly believing in a single divine being, you really should realise that you are not a god. In attitude. * Note that I said "strongly-American approach to" for a reason. As you said, Americans as a rule of thumb are as normal as you or I. On second thoughts... ;P The problem with America is that is is essentially a room full of individual pubescent countries that are trying to play nice together, while being told when they can go out and play by a super-power that simply cannot control them all effectively. If you were to be given true freedom, you would revert to anachy and wipe yourselves out for the pettiest of reasons. ---- I say "in your face". You say "up yours" Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty.
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Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty. Look up the term "escape velocity". Everything does not have to come back down. Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger