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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    I love it when people refer to Software Development as, "Its not rocket science". I usually don't argue but, well, just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)

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    Marc Clifton
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    Correct. It isn't. It's crystal ball, sacrificial lamb, voodoo. Marc

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      What was that space probe they launched but missed its target because of 1 line of Fortran code was off? :)

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      David Lockwood wrote:

      What was that space probe...

      Mariner I.

      "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

      "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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      • E El Corazon

        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets

        uh... uh... uh... John C. using C#!

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here? :laugh: I've written millions of lines of C and C++ back in the day. :rolleyes:


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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          I love it when people refer to Software Development as, "Its not rocket science". I usually don't argue but, well, just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)

          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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          I wonder what a modern equivalent saying would be? Something that nearly everyone understands as being highly complex and technical.


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            Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here? :laugh: I've written millions of lines of C and C++ back in the day. :rolleyes:


            When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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            David Stone
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            You drank the .NET Koolaid. ;) Now we all make fun of you behind your back for your hatred slight loathing of open source and your love for all things C# and .NET. ;)

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              You drank the .NET Koolaid. ;) Now we all make fun of you behind your back for your hatred slight loathing of open source and your love for all things C# and .NET. ;)

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              ;P


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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                I love it when people refer to Software Development as, "Its not rocket science". I usually don't argue but, well, just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)

                Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                ghle
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                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)

                Funny you should ask. I spoke to these folks Analytical Graphics, Inc.[^ agi.com] just yesterday. (This is not a plug, only an answer to your question, but maybe it should be a plug!) Even the sales gal Kathryn is a rocket scientist (okay, aeronautical engineer - same thing). I can honestly say holy sheyt, that's some good stuff. Since we will be sending a lander/rover to the Moon next year (Google Lunar X Prize [^]) I thought it would be a good idea to see how we'll get there. Their STK product uses any coordinate system you can think of, stick any point as a frame of reference - Earth, Moon, satellite, Earth-Moon L2, etc., etc. - get from anywhere to anywhere, so many options it takes a rocket scientist to figure them all out. I'm already building satellite trajectories in the software. I guess I'll be a rocket scientist next year. :cool: I'll also have my share of $20 million sometime next year!

                Gary Moon_at_PortableBytes.com

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                  just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)

                  Funny you should ask. I spoke to these folks Analytical Graphics, Inc.[^ agi.com] just yesterday. (This is not a plug, only an answer to your question, but maybe it should be a plug!) Even the sales gal Kathryn is a rocket scientist (okay, aeronautical engineer - same thing). I can honestly say holy sheyt, that's some good stuff. Since we will be sending a lander/rover to the Moon next year (Google Lunar X Prize [^]) I thought it would be a good idea to see how we'll get there. Their STK product uses any coordinate system you can think of, stick any point as a frame of reference - Earth, Moon, satellite, Earth-Moon L2, etc., etc. - get from anywhere to anywhere, so many options it takes a rocket scientist to figure them all out. I'm already building satellite trajectories in the software. I guess I'll be a rocket scientist next year. :cool: I'll also have my share of $20 million sometime next year!

                  Gary Moon_at_PortableBytes.com

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                  El Corazon
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                  ghle wrote:

                  but maybe it should be a plug!)

                  for everyone with a 100K to spare... ;) everyone else comes to me. :laugh:

                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here? :laugh: I've written millions of lines of C and C++ back in the day. :rolleyes:


                    When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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                    John C wrote:

                    Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here?

                    we may have our discussions, but I am fairly certain you could take a joke. A few others I might have got my head ripped off and fed to me. :-D

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      Correct. It isn't. It's crystal ball, sacrificial lamb, voodoo. Marc

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                      You forgot the entrails of a virginal DBA!

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                      • E El Corazon

                        ghle wrote:

                        but maybe it should be a plug!)

                        for everyone with a 100K to spare... ;) everyone else comes to me. :laugh:

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        El Corazon wrote:

                        everyone else comes to me.

                        Plug, what's that? :laugh: Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do? :confused:

                        Gary

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                          I wonder what a modern equivalent saying would be? Something that nearly everyone understands as being highly complex and technical.


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                          G-spot detection? Election prediction? Dictator oustification? Internet age verification? Dormroom webcam installation? Nuclear power plant automation?

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                            I wonder what a modern equivalent saying would be? Something that nearly everyone understands as being highly complex and technical.


                            When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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                            Andy Brummer
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                            John C wrote:

                            Something that nearly everyone understands as being highly complex and technical.

                            It doesn't matter what subject you pick, the people I end up working for seem are guaranteed to think they could do a better job at it, and that software has to be even easier.


                            I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                              So maybe Fortran and assembly could be rocket science, but not C#. Besides, wasn't that all written decades ago? There shouldn't be any need to write more of it should there? :-D On a previous job one of my colleagues would say, "Hey, we're not making a heart/lung machine here."

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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              There shouldn't be any need to write more of it should there?

                              Isn't there a class in .Net somewhere that will take care of all rocket science? :confused: Or is that scheduled for .Net 4? :laugh:

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                              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                I love it when people refer to Software Development as, "Its not rocket science". I usually don't argue but, well, just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)

                                Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                                Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                who do you think writes the software that launches rockets

                                And if the rocket has no software?

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                                  El Corazon wrote:

                                  everyone else comes to me.

                                  Plug, what's that? :laugh: Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do? :confused:

                                  Gary

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                                  El Corazon
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                                  ghle wrote:

                                  Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do?

                                  I'm not great. But both STK and I launch things that are designed not to return to earth and land.... well, sometimes mine do land, just never gently. the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing. :laugh:

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                                    John C wrote:

                                    Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here?

                                    we may have our discussions, but I am fairly certain you could take a joke. A few others I might have got my head ripped off and fed to me. :-D

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    El Corazon wrote:

                                    A few others I might have got my head ripped off and fed to me.

                                    Just wondering... if they rip your head off... how are they supposed to feed it to you? :confused:

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                                      ghle wrote:

                                      Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do?

                                      I'm not great. But both STK and I launch things that are designed not to return to earth and land.... well, sometimes mine do land, just never gently. the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing. :laugh:

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      El Corazon wrote:

                                      the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing.

                                      Hmmm, STK seems appropriate for our use... :laugh: No prize just for landing. We probably would meet the distance challenge, but it's supposed to be controlled, and we need to video 60% of the surface area. I can see it now - arguing with the rules committee that the vapor cloud in the image actually represents 80% of the surface area. :^)

                                      Gary

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                                        El Corazon wrote:

                                        the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing.

                                        Hmmm, STK seems appropriate for our use... :laugh: No prize just for landing. We probably would meet the distance challenge, but it's supposed to be controlled, and we need to video 60% of the surface area. I can see it now - arguing with the rules committee that the vapor cloud in the image actually represents 80% of the surface area. :^)

                                        Gary

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                                        El Corazon
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                                        ghle wrote:

                                        Hmmm, STK seems appropriate for our use... No prize just for landing. We probably would meet the distance challenge, but it's supposed to be controlled, and we need to video 60% of the surface area.

                                        I was as much joking as serious. We also control target aircraft with telepresence accuracy, we can land an unmanned f4 via remote control in a perfect landing every time. We do telepresence video, augmented picture in 3D picture so you can see your video within the 3d environment. I can map your foot print of your video to the surface area you land at, so you can see instantly the percentage of coverage you are getting. What I do mostly now is telepresence work and augmented reality in field conditions (not "perfect" lab conditions). from Google: http://www.csc.com/cscworld/042007/dep/ip001.html[^] we also supported NASA's return to flight with the first shuttle up after the last disaster. We supported them with our technology as well as advice shortly after the disaster they came to us. STK has also been attempting to get on the range by either competing with us, or trying to partner with us. SimDIS has been trying the same. At a location in colorado, we are three screens down from SimDIS so we get lots of comparisons, until the data gets going. Compared to SimDIS, we run 10x faster with 10x the landscape detail, and 10x the data input. With STK those numbers fall to about 4x

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                                          El Corazon wrote:

                                          A few others I might have got my head ripped off and fed to me.

                                          Just wondering... if they rip your head off... how are they supposed to feed it to you? :confused:

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                                          The same way you feed a headless chicken. stuff it down the throat. :laugh:

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