Its not rocket science
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Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here? :laugh: I've written millions of lines of C and C++ back in the day. :rolleyes:
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You drank the .NET Koolaid. ;) Now we all make fun of you behind your back for your hatred slight loathing of open source and your love for all things C# and .NET. ;)
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You drank the .NET Koolaid. ;) Now we all make fun of you behind your back for your hatred slight loathing of open source and your love for all things C# and .NET. ;)
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I love it when people refer to Software Development as, "Its not rocket science". I usually don't argue but, well, just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayEnnis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)
Funny you should ask. I spoke to these folks Analytical Graphics, Inc.[^ agi.com] just yesterday. (This is not a plug, only an answer to your question, but maybe it should be a plug!) Even the sales gal Kathryn is a rocket scientist (okay, aeronautical engineer - same thing). I can honestly say holy sheyt, that's some good stuff. Since we will be sending a lander/rover to the Moon next year (Google Lunar X Prize [^]) I thought it would be a good idea to see how we'll get there. Their STK product uses any coordinate system you can think of, stick any point as a frame of reference - Earth, Moon, satellite, Earth-Moon L2, etc., etc. - get from anywhere to anywhere, so many options it takes a rocket scientist to figure them all out. I'm already building satellite trajectories in the software. I guess I'll be a rocket scientist next year. :cool: I'll also have my share of $20 million sometime next year!
Gary Moon_at_PortableBytes.com
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)
Funny you should ask. I spoke to these folks Analytical Graphics, Inc.[^ agi.com] just yesterday. (This is not a plug, only an answer to your question, but maybe it should be a plug!) Even the sales gal Kathryn is a rocket scientist (okay, aeronautical engineer - same thing). I can honestly say holy sheyt, that's some good stuff. Since we will be sending a lander/rover to the Moon next year (Google Lunar X Prize [^]) I thought it would be a good idea to see how we'll get there. Their STK product uses any coordinate system you can think of, stick any point as a frame of reference - Earth, Moon, satellite, Earth-Moon L2, etc., etc. - get from anywhere to anywhere, so many options it takes a rocket scientist to figure them all out. I'm already building satellite trajectories in the software. I guess I'll be a rocket scientist next year. :cool: I'll also have my share of $20 million sometime next year!
Gary Moon_at_PortableBytes.com
ghle wrote:
but maybe it should be a plug!)
for everyone with a 100K to spare... ;) everyone else comes to me. :laugh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here? :laugh: I've written millions of lines of C and C++ back in the day. :rolleyes:
When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.
John C wrote:
Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here?
we may have our discussions, but I am fairly certain you could take a joke. A few others I might have got my head ripped off and fed to me. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Correct. It isn't. It's crystal ball, sacrificial lamb, voodoo. Marc
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ghle wrote:
but maybe it should be a plug!)
for everyone with a 100K to spare... ;) everyone else comes to me. :laugh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I wonder what a modern equivalent saying would be? Something that nearly everyone understands as being highly complex and technical.
When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.
G-spot detection? Election prediction? Dictator oustification? Internet age verification? Dormroom webcam installation? Nuclear power plant automation?
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I wonder what a modern equivalent saying would be? Something that nearly everyone understands as being highly complex and technical.
When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.
John C wrote:
Something that nearly everyone understands as being highly complex and technical.
It doesn't matter what subject you pick, the people I end up working for seem are guaranteed to think they could do a better job at it, and that software has to be even easier.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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So maybe Fortran and assembly could be rocket science, but not C#. Besides, wasn't that all written decades ago? There shouldn't be any need to write more of it should there? :-D On a previous job one of my colleagues would say, "Hey, we're not making a heart/lung machine here."
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
There shouldn't be any need to write more of it should there?
Isn't there a class in .Net somewhere that will take care of all rocket science? :confused: Or is that scheduled for .Net 4? :laugh:
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I love it when people refer to Software Development as, "Its not rocket science". I usually don't argue but, well, just who do you think writes the software that launches rockets :)
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El Corazon wrote:
everyone else comes to me.
Plug, what's that? :laugh: Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do? :confused:
Gary
ghle wrote:
Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do?
I'm not great. But both STK and I launch things that are designed not to return to earth and land.... well, sometimes mine do land, just never gently. the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing. :laugh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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John C wrote:
Hey, how did I become the go to guy for a c# joke around here?
we may have our discussions, but I am fairly certain you could take a joke. A few others I might have got my head ripped off and fed to me. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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ghle wrote:
Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do?
I'm not great. But both STK and I launch things that are designed not to return to earth and land.... well, sometimes mine do land, just never gently. the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing. :laugh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing.
Hmmm, STK seems appropriate for our use... :laugh: No prize just for landing. We probably would meet the distance challenge, but it's supposed to be controlled, and we need to video 60% of the surface area. I can see it now - arguing with the rules committee that the vapor cloud in the image actually represents 80% of the surface area. :^)
Gary
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El Corazon wrote:
the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing.
Hmmm, STK seems appropriate for our use... :laugh: No prize just for landing. We probably would meet the distance challenge, but it's supposed to be controlled, and we need to video 60% of the surface area. I can see it now - arguing with the rules committee that the vapor cloud in the image actually represents 80% of the surface area. :^)
Gary
ghle wrote:
Hmmm, STK seems appropriate for our use... No prize just for landing. We probably would meet the distance challenge, but it's supposed to be controlled, and we need to video 60% of the surface area.
I was as much joking as serious. We also control target aircraft with telepresence accuracy, we can land an unmanned f4 via remote control in a perfect landing every time. We do telepresence video, augmented picture in 3D picture so you can see your video within the 3d environment. I can map your foot print of your video to the surface area you land at, so you can see instantly the percentage of coverage you are getting. What I do mostly now is telepresence work and augmented reality in field conditions (not "perfect" lab conditions). from Google: http://www.csc.com/cscworld/042007/dep/ip001.html[^] we also supported NASA's return to flight with the first shuttle up after the last disaster. We supported them with our technology as well as advice shortly after the disaster they came to us. STK has also been attempting to get on the range by either competing with us, or trying to partner with us. SimDIS has been trying the same. At a location in colorado, we are three screens down from SimDIS so we get lots of comparisons, until the data gets going. Compared to SimDIS, we run 10x faster with 10x the landscape detail, and 10x the data input. With STK those numbers fall to about 4x
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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El Corazon wrote:
A few others I might have got my head ripped off and fed to me.
Just wondering... if they rip your head off... how are they supposed to feed it to you? :confused:
The same way you feed a headless chicken. stuff it down the throat. :laugh:
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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ghle wrote:
Hmmm, STK seems appropriate for our use... No prize just for landing. We probably would meet the distance challenge, but it's supposed to be controlled, and we need to video 60% of the surface area.
I was as much joking as serious. We also control target aircraft with telepresence accuracy, we can land an unmanned f4 via remote control in a perfect landing every time. We do telepresence video, augmented picture in 3D picture so you can see your video within the 3d environment. I can map your foot print of your video to the surface area you land at, so you can see instantly the percentage of coverage you are getting. What I do mostly now is telepresence work and augmented reality in field conditions (not "perfect" lab conditions). from Google: http://www.csc.com/cscworld/042007/dep/ip001.html[^] we also supported NASA's return to flight with the first shuttle up after the last disaster. We supported them with our technology as well as advice shortly after the disaster they came to us. STK has also been attempting to get on the range by either competing with us, or trying to partner with us. SimDIS has been trying the same. At a location in colorado, we are three screens down from SimDIS so we get lots of comparisons, until the data gets going. Compared to SimDIS, we run 10x faster with 10x the landscape detail, and 10x the data input. With STK those numbers fall to about 4x
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
I was as much joking as serious.
Very impressive indeed. I knew you did great work! Serious question - can you get me to the Moon, or are you strictly Earth & LEO based? With your real-time presence, maybe we create a sim with a gas-pedal and steering wheel and drive and land the dang rocket ala unmanned f4 control. :) (We'll expect a slight time delay - not your fault :-O )
Gary
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El Corazon wrote:
I was as much joking as serious.
Very impressive indeed. I knew you did great work! Serious question - can you get me to the Moon, or are you strictly Earth & LEO based? With your real-time presence, maybe we create a sim with a gas-pedal and steering wheel and drive and land the dang rocket ala unmanned f4 control. :) (We'll expect a slight time delay - not your fault :-O )
Gary
ghle wrote:
Serious question - can you get me to the Moon, or are you strictly Earth & LEO based? With your real-time presence, maybe we create a sim with a gas-pedal and steering wheel and drive and land the dang rocket ala unmanned f4 control. (We'll expect a slight time delay - not your fault )
Right now we are strictly earth, which does make STK your best bet, though with my mult-coordinate system, there is nothing that prevents me from going to the moon other than adding the moon. At the moment STK is probably your best bet. As soon as one of our customers want to go to the moon, we'll add it. STK does have some great stuff, far prettier than mine at least until you look at the terrain. To be honest probably the hardest thing for me is the delay. All of our software including streaming video is designed for real-time work, We've never had to worry about delays. The delay from the earth to the moon and vice-versa would probably drive me bonkers. I know you get longer delays in some unmanned stuff around the military, but I don't see how they manage either. I like time-now and keep all my software fast enough so the people see what is happening now. I just also like pushing graphics and CPUs to their limits, so I like high detail.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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ghle wrote:
Excuse my ignorance. I know you're good great, but is this the sort of stuff you do?
I'm not great. But both STK and I launch things that are designed not to return to earth and land.... well, sometimes mine do land, just never gently. the stuff we launch has more .... explosive ... ways of landing. :laugh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
"Well, we're not programmed to land as such..." -- Captain of the Golgafrinchan "B" Ark
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Of course count from 10 to 0 and press a button to send a piece of metal up in the sky it is also not complicated... I can pick one piece of metal from the floor and throw it to the ski without even counting... Those people... :rolleyes:
Well, the problem is not lunching, but landing. Especially when you are inside :) With your logic people can fly, just climb up (if you are lazy, you can use elevator) to the top of any high bulding and jump. So simple... who says that people can't fly? Call me greedy but I want to fly more than once in my lifetime :)