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  • A Adam Smith

    Yea caffeine is the number one addictive drug in the world even though i think sugar is well above that, but not considered a drug. Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost ever product is jammed full of sugar. Even though they dont list the actual name sugar they change it to other things like HIGH FRUCTOSE and CORN SYRUP. They also list the ingredients in order of quantity so almost every product lists sugar first. No wonder everyone is getting a form of diabetes! :sigh:

    Adam Smith www.codeproject.com

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    Anthony Mushrow
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    Have you seen how much sugar is in a jelly cube? Its ridiculous... yet delicious. One small 40p pack of jelly has more that the daily recomendation of joules. I remember one time, i ate 2 packets of cubes within 2 hours, and i couldn't sit still for quite a while. Good times, goood times.

    My current favourite word is: Nipple!

    -SK Genius

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    • E El Corazon

      Mike Hankey wrote:

      I had a Cat scan done to day (smart Cat)

      cat's are amazing animals... ever notice how they look at you and can seem to look right through you? this is the power of a cat scan. BUT it comes at a price.... in the back of that huge machine is a cat trained to look into you day after day after day.... it is a very bored cat... so beyond the initial cats rights people there is also the issue of the cat making up things because he is tired of looking into people.... look closely and occasionally you will see faint images of mice, and cheese, and liver and onions.... This is why you have to be trained to look at cat scans... because you have to learn how to pick up the cats vision and his imagination.... it is a tough job.... and sometimes the cat fools you....

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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      El Corazon wrote:

      and sometimes the cat fools you....

      And sometimes they get bored and start scanning themselves[^] :rolleyes:

      Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        I had a Cat scan done to day (smart Cat) and they said I couldn't have any caffeine for 2 days so according to this study I'm gonna experience withdrawals and get grouchy. At least now I'll know why! http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2008/02/optimally_wired_a_caffeine_use.php[^] Mike

        Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

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        Oakman
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        Mike Hankey wrote:

        I'm gonna experience withdrawals and get grouchy. At least now I'll know why!

        Watch out for the headache and remember that some OTC pain meds containe caffeine.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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        • A Adam Smith

          Yea caffeine is the number one addictive drug in the world even though i think sugar is well above that, but not considered a drug. Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost ever product is jammed full of sugar. Even though they dont list the actual name sugar they change it to other things like HIGH FRUCTOSE and CORN SYRUP. They also list the ingredients in order of quantity so almost every product lists sugar first. No wonder everyone is getting a form of diabetes! :sigh:

          Adam Smith www.codeproject.com

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          Mike Hankey
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          Adam Smith wrote:

          Yea caffeine is the number one addictive drug in the world

          I disagree I believe Nicotine is the most addictive but caffeine is the most widely used. I can live without coffee but even though I quit smoking for many years I never lost the urge and am smoking to this day even though doc tells me I've got slight emphysema. But your right about sugar everything has some sort of sugar in it. I would also guess that americans consume more than any other country. Mike

          Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

          Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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          • E El Corazon

            Mike Hankey wrote:

            I had a Cat scan done to day (smart Cat)

            cat's are amazing animals... ever notice how they look at you and can seem to look right through you? this is the power of a cat scan. BUT it comes at a price.... in the back of that huge machine is a cat trained to look into you day after day after day.... it is a very bored cat... so beyond the initial cats rights people there is also the issue of the cat making up things because he is tired of looking into people.... look closely and occasionally you will see faint images of mice, and cheese, and liver and onions.... This is why you have to be trained to look at cat scans... because you have to learn how to pick up the cats vision and his imagination.... it is a tough job.... and sometimes the cat fools you....

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Mike Hankey
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            El Corazon wrote:

            ever notice how they look at you and can seem to look right through you?

            They do look right through you that how it works. Plus all that licking to prep you I would think their little tongues would wear out in time. Conversely a Dog scan is where they look for bone problems! :) Haven't had one those thank god! Mike

            Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

            Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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            • O Oakman

              Mike Hankey wrote:

              I'm gonna experience withdrawals and get grouchy. At least now I'll know why!

              Watch out for the headache and remember that some OTC pain meds containe caffeine.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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              Oakman wrote:

              Watch out for the headache

              That's why I had the Cat scan in the first place I've had headaches for 7 mos. solid. It took me 4 mos. to convince the doc at VA to do something beside give me pain meds.. Mike

              Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

              Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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              • A Adam Smith

                Yea caffeine is the number one addictive drug in the world even though i think sugar is well above that, but not considered a drug. Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost ever product is jammed full of sugar. Even though they dont list the actual name sugar they change it to other things like HIGH FRUCTOSE and CORN SYRUP. They also list the ingredients in order of quantity so almost every product lists sugar first. No wonder everyone is getting a form of diabetes! :sigh:

                Adam Smith www.codeproject.com

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                Adam Smith wrote:

                Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost ever product is jammed full of sugar.

                Why yes I have, and not if it's going in my shopping cart.

                This blanket smells like ham

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                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                  Oakman wrote:

                  Watch out for the headache

                  That's why I had the Cat scan in the first place I've had headaches for 7 mos. solid. It took me 4 mos. to convince the doc at VA to do something beside give me pain meds.. Mike

                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                  Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                  Oakman
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                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  It took me 4 mos. to convince the doc at VA to do something beside give me pain meds..

                  And meanwhile all the candidates are patting themselves on the back for how much better and more responsive they have made the VA.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  • O Oakman

                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    It took me 4 mos. to convince the doc at VA to do something beside give me pain meds..

                    And meanwhile all the candidates are patting themselves on the back for how much better and more responsive they have made the VA.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    Mike Hankey
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                    Oakman wrote:

                    And meanwhile all the candidates are patting themselves on the back for how much better and more responsive they have made the VA.

                    Ask any Vet that relies on the VA for primary care? I do admit its gotten better but thats like comparing Prison to Jail, Its still the same old SNAFU! Mike

                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                    Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      Oakman wrote:

                      And meanwhile all the candidates are patting themselves on the back for how much better and more responsive they have made the VA.

                      Ask any Vet that relies on the VA for primary care? I do admit its gotten better but thats like comparing Prison to Jail, Its still the same old SNAFU! Mike

                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                      Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                      Oakman
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                      I admit my experience with active duty health care is forty plus years out of date, but though it was not perfect (I was left alone while undergoing a spinal tap which cost one guy a stripe) was nonetheless delivered in a professional and efficient manner. What I'm saying is that the armed forces know how to get it right - how come the VA gets it so wrong?

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      • O Oakman

                        I admit my experience with active duty health care is forty plus years out of date, but though it was not perfect (I was left alone while undergoing a spinal tap which cost one guy a stripe) was nonetheless delivered in a professional and efficient manner. What I'm saying is that the armed forces know how to get it right - how come the VA gets it so wrong?

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        how come the VA gets it so wrong?

                        ...funding...And now that baby boomers (Viet Nam) vets are getting older theres more of us to take care of. It also depends on where you go to seek help some are better than others. An example we don't have a hospital here in Jacksonville (FL) only a clinic, I had to go to Lake City, 1-1/2 hr. drive to get my scan done. Jax's population is 1M+! So the politicians can pat themselves on the back all they want but the fact is if you don't budget the funding for better health care you don't get it! Mike

                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                        Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          Oakman wrote:

                          Watch out for the headache

                          That's why I had the Cat scan in the first place I've had headaches for 7 mos. solid. It took me 4 mos. to convince the doc at VA to do something beside give me pain meds.. Mike

                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                          Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                          Faidzal Thalith
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                          I begin to feel headache after reading this topics... maybe its time to get some caffeine... ;P

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            I had a Cat scan done to day (smart Cat) and they said I couldn't have any caffeine for 2 days so according to this study I'm gonna experience withdrawals and get grouchy. At least now I'll know why! http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2008/02/optimally_wired_a_caffeine_use.php[^] Mike

                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                            Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            There is not such thing as optimally wired. I was grooving much better at work last night, really into the zone, and I even stopped the coffee before 18h00. I got home an couldn't sleep until sunrise, at around 05h30.

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                              Adam Smith wrote:

                              Yea caffeine is the number one addictive drug in the world

                              I disagree I believe Nicotine is the most addictive but caffeine is the most widely used. I can live without coffee but even though I quit smoking for many years I never lost the urge and am smoking to this day even though doc tells me I've got slight emphysema. But your right about sugar everything has some sort of sugar in it. I would also guess that americans consume more than any other country. Mike

                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                              Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                              cpNayana
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                              Mike Hankey wrote:

                              Adam Smith wrote: Yea caffeine is the number one addictive drug in the world I disagree

                              You don't necessarily disagree, that was a vague sentence which could have meant (number one addictive) drug OR (number one) (addictive drug) I he was mentioning the latter, so you agree with him.

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                              • A Adam Smith

                                Yea caffeine is the number one addictive drug in the world even though i think sugar is well above that, but not considered a drug. Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost ever product is jammed full of sugar. Even though they dont list the actual name sugar they change it to other things like HIGH FRUCTOSE and CORN SYRUP. They also list the ingredients in order of quantity so almost every product lists sugar first. No wonder everyone is getting a form of diabetes! :sigh:

                                Adam Smith www.codeproject.com

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                                Lost User
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                                And they keep increasing the sugar levels in existing products :sigh:

                                Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                • O Oakman

                                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                                  I'm gonna experience withdrawals and get grouchy. At least now I'll know why!

                                  Watch out for the headache and remember that some OTC pain meds containe caffeine.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  Chris Quinn
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                                  Mixing caffeine and chocolate can be deadly to some creatures - remember this when ordering your flavoured coffees and sprinkling the cocoa on your cappuchinos! http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg19626351.700-death-by-chocolate.html

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                                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                    I had a Cat scan done to day (smart Cat) and they said I couldn't have any caffeine for 2 days so according to this study I'm gonna experience withdrawals and get grouchy. At least now I'll know why! http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2008/02/optimally_wired_a_caffeine_use.php[^] Mike

                                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                                    Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                                    ClockMeister
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                                    Interesting timing. I just quit Caffeine myself ... about 6 days into the withdrawal. Man ... I ain't going through that again. I've been drinking caffeine for 30 years and just realized how addicted I was. My head is far clearer right now than it has been in some time. I ain't goin' back this time. -CB :D

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                                      Interesting timing. I just quit Caffeine myself ... about 6 days into the withdrawal. Man ... I ain't going through that again. I've been drinking caffeine for 30 years and just realized how addicted I was. My head is far clearer right now than it has been in some time. I ain't goin' back this time. -CB :D

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                                      Mike Hankey
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                                      Its amazing the things we are addicted to and don't even realize it. If it makes you feel better stick with it! Mike

                                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                                      Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                                      • A Andy Brummer

                                        Adam Smith wrote:

                                        Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost ever product is jammed full of sugar.

                                        Why yes I have, and not if it's going in my shopping cart.

                                        This blanket smells like ham

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                                        DavidGB
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                                        Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost every product is jammed full of sugar. Basic guide for healthy eating: Before buying anything, read the ingredients list out loud. If there are any ingredients you can't pronounce, don't buy it.

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                                        • D DavidGB

                                          Have you ever looked at the ingredients chart on a product, almost every product is jammed full of sugar. Basic guide for healthy eating: Before buying anything, read the ingredients list out loud. If there are any ingredients you can't pronounce, don't buy it.

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                                          Skylan Hill
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                                          It's even simpler than that: " Some food for thought: • If your food has a wrapper or a box, chances are it isn't good for you. • If your food has ingredients you can't say, chances are it isn't good for you. • If your food makes a claim that it's healthy, chances are it isn't good for you. • If your food comes pre-seasoned, chances are it isn't good for you. • Lastly, if your food makes any claims about fat loss, chances are it isn't good for you. " - Tony Gentilcore Nutrition For Newbies... and for vets who still eat like crap! by Tony Gentilcore[^] It's a good article, even if you don't necessary consider yourself an athlete.

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