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  • F Fisa

    Hello! I read the last daily news, and i'm very ungry about one of the articles, that called "10 broken technology ideas -- and how to fix them". The first point talks abaut portable pc's. After reading it, i'm fully convinced that someone that knows nothing about that wrote this article! (i guess that he knows a lot about other things, but no about portable devices) Apple iPhone a "computer"??? It's only a beautifull cellphone, has nothing more than that!!!! And talk about smartphones, pocket pcs and UMPC's like they were all the same thing?? They are complete different worlds!! Being an expert in this topic, i must give you my opinion: - Smartphones: cellphones with something more, the future of massive communication devices, for the common people (the iPhone is here). Some pocket pcs are in the massive category too, with great innovative interfaces, like the HTC Touch, that have a lot more functions than an iPhone, are cheaper, and easy to use. - Pocket Pcs and similars: future of mobile bussines applications. They have the mobility and the capability to run complex bussines applications. I develop that kind of solutions, and i know how much you can do with a pocket pc. Belive me, is more than the most of the IT people thinks (we have apps that are capable to take to the hand all the information required for a mobile warrior: customers, stock, accounts, reports, real time information, sells, etc) - UMPCs and similars: they are still starting, and their place on the market is still not defined, but some of them are better like portable media devices, and other are better for bussines apps. The blackberrys are something temporal. They are good for mobile e-mail, but nothing more. And you can have mobile e-mail (push e-mail) on a pocket pc too, using Exchange Server, is nothing new (exists before Blackberry). They are transforming to pocket pcs, there are new versions that run Windows Mobile, so the actual Blackberry models are a "temporal" kind of device. The iPhone is the better portable computer today?... well, knowing the portable world today, nothing is more far away than that. It's not even a computer... A pocket pc is more close to a portable pc. For example, with .net, an app that runs on a pocket pc, runs on a pc too (there is nothig more close to a pc on your hand than that). The actual portable pcs are no "perfect", but are great to the objetive that are made. There are devices for every need. What do you think? PS: sorry about my bad english, i speak spanish XD

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    ThatsAlok
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    great!

    "If it were machines, the pair_programming seem to work, but for humans it is pair_crackdown that seems to work! " - Nisamudheen
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    • L leppie

      They still all computing devices, hence they are in fact computers.

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      ThatsAlok
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      leppie wrote:

      They still all computing devices, hence they are in fact computers.

      offf course mobile can't replace computer.. but watches could he hehe

      "If it were machines, the pair_programming seem to work, but for humans it is pair_crackdown that seems to work! " - Nisamudheen
      "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
      Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

      cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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      • L Lost User

        From the article "The Apple iPhone is a smarter, sexier, more useable computer than just about any MID" This is really funny. ;P ;P

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        Himanshu Joshi wrote:

        This is really funny. ;P;P

        i think HTC touch is much sexier.. what u say??

        "If it were machines, the pair_programming seem to work, but for humans it is pair_crackdown that seems to work! " - Nisamudheen
        "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
        Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

        cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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        • D Daniel Turini

          What's your definition of a computer?

          I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!

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          ThatsAlok
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          Daniel Turini wrote:

          What's your definition of a computer?

          thing that compute!

          "If it were machines, the pair_programming seem to work, but for humans it is pair_crackdown that seems to work! " - Nisamudheen
          "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
          Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

          cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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          • F Fisa

            LOL, not the Wikipedia article. The article of the newsletter, where an expert says that the iPhone is the best portable computer

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            ThatsAlok
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            i still there are much better option available in market!

            "If it were machines, the pair_programming seem to work, but for humans it is pair_crackdown that seems to work! " - Nisamudheen
            "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
            Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

            cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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            • T ThatsAlok

              Himanshu Joshi wrote:

              This is really funny. ;P;P

              i think HTC touch is much sexier.. what u say??

              "If it were machines, the pair_programming seem to work, but for humans it is pair_crackdown that seems to work! " - Nisamudheen
              "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
              Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

              cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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              Fisa
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              yea, is very much sexier :D

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              • F Fisa

                yea, is very much sexier :D

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                ThatsAlok
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                but little costlier.. what u say.. but i found it quite user friendly

                "If it were machines, the pair_programming seem to work, but for humans it is pair_crackdown that seems to work! " - Nisamudheen
                "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
                Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

                cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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                • F Fisa

                  First, the iPhone has an FTP CLIENT, no FTP Server (with a server, i can acces my pocket pc from any pc with internet). Second, it doesn't run a SQL Lite. It has an SQL Lite CLIENT, so it can connect to an SQL Lite database that is NOT IN THE DEVICE. On a pocket pc you have the SQL Server ON THE DEVICE. The database and the server are on de pocket pc. And a portable computer can run other OS, not only Windows. There are a lot of portable computers that run portable versions of Linux, for example some models of Nokia. And you are right, IS A CELLPHONE. The problem is that the article says that is the best portable pc!! it is only a cellphone!!! Finally, there are only "little" apps for iPhone. For pocket pc's, there are clients for ERP's like SAP. That is a real app, like an app of a computer, and not a "tiny" app for cellphones.

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                  Fisa wrote:

                  It has an SQL Lite CLIENT, so it can connect to an SQL Lite database that is NOT IN THE DEVICE

                  Sorry, mate, that's bollocks - the iPhone can certainly host Sqlite databases. And now the iPhone SDK is available, you'll be able to write server software that uses the WiFi interface.

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                  • F Fisa

                    I'm not making predictions. The author of the article does (the Apple future portable pc...) I'm saying that today, the iPhone is not the "better" portable pc, like the author says. Today there are other devices that are far better in other aspects that are not the design and the easy of use...

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                    Fisa wrote:

                    the Apple future portable pc

                    Fisa wrote:

                    I'm saying that today, the iPhone is not the "better" portable pc

                    for who, for what? You are saying PC and then talking Windows Mobile, or desktop PCs and then saying they are not the same, agreed, but for who are you comparing? Are you demanding everying agree with you because you don't like the iPhone? I think the iPhone's influence is still open... just look at what it has sparked: http://www.nvidia.com/object/hh_games_demos.html[^] of course that phone doesn't exist yet, but the processor and video and prototype does. nVidia gambled on the draw of the iPhone in useability being its market place also... of course it didn't hurt buying out two companies doing cell phone related technologies.... :laugh: Anyhow. What has happened so far is that the iPhone surprised everyone with its volume sales from day one. That has created other hardware vendors to revamp market appeal, and hardware to be "more iPhone like" trying to cash in. Given this mass push of hardware vendors to try to win over the iPhone market back from apple, I would say it is doing quite well. As for "future personal computer" 50 years ago that was a unit that filled a room and did less than an iPhone. Where the iPhone will go, time will tell, but its influence is already quite remarkable. So if you consider the influence of the iPhone as equivalent to the influence of the first IBM-PC, I would say that the iPhone has already outsold and outmarketed its historic predicessor that brought computing power out of the back room and onto the desk. Now we are going into the pocket fast and easy. I have known too many people to be unhappy with palm and windows mobile phones because they are too difficult to learn, windows OS designed for larger scale units just doesn't scale down well. The iPhone was designed for the package presentation from software to hardware. And the sales respectively agree that its influence is remarkable. I think its influence is only beginning. I expect a new set of lineups of smart phones each with intuitive and glitzy user interfaces, trying to beat each other over scraps left over from the iPhone marketshare. Even if they eventually win, I think the iPhone has indeed changed th

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                    • F Fisa

                      Hello! I read the last daily news, and i'm very ungry about one of the articles, that called "10 broken technology ideas -- and how to fix them". The first point talks abaut portable pc's. After reading it, i'm fully convinced that someone that knows nothing about that wrote this article! (i guess that he knows a lot about other things, but no about portable devices) Apple iPhone a "computer"??? It's only a beautifull cellphone, has nothing more than that!!!! And talk about smartphones, pocket pcs and UMPC's like they were all the same thing?? They are complete different worlds!! Being an expert in this topic, i must give you my opinion: - Smartphones: cellphones with something more, the future of massive communication devices, for the common people (the iPhone is here). Some pocket pcs are in the massive category too, with great innovative interfaces, like the HTC Touch, that have a lot more functions than an iPhone, are cheaper, and easy to use. - Pocket Pcs and similars: future of mobile bussines applications. They have the mobility and the capability to run complex bussines applications. I develop that kind of solutions, and i know how much you can do with a pocket pc. Belive me, is more than the most of the IT people thinks (we have apps that are capable to take to the hand all the information required for a mobile warrior: customers, stock, accounts, reports, real time information, sells, etc) - UMPCs and similars: they are still starting, and their place on the market is still not defined, but some of them are better like portable media devices, and other are better for bussines apps. The blackberrys are something temporal. They are good for mobile e-mail, but nothing more. And you can have mobile e-mail (push e-mail) on a pocket pc too, using Exchange Server, is nothing new (exists before Blackberry). They are transforming to pocket pcs, there are new versions that run Windows Mobile, so the actual Blackberry models are a "temporal" kind of device. The iPhone is the better portable computer today?... well, knowing the portable world today, nothing is more far away than that. It's not even a computer... A pocket pc is more close to a portable pc. For example, with .net, an app that runs on a pocket pc, runs on a pc too (there is nothig more close to a pc on your hand than that). The actual portable pcs are no "perfect", but are great to the objetive that are made. There are devices for every need. What do you think? PS: sorry about my bad english, i speak spanish XD

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      A blackberry does more than just email. You can run brickbreaker on it too.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

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