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  • T Tim Carmichael

    Yesterday, my wife, out 2 year old daughter, my mother-in-law and my wife's neice were out driving somewhere. My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'... My wife corrected her and asked her to use proper English when speaking because she doesn't want our daughter to use improper words. Then, my wife said, and I quote... "Y'all need to think about what you're saying..." I laughed and pointed out her word usage; the hit in the arm was worth it! Tim

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    I was talking to my colleague. She told me her friend used to occasionally babysit her daughter and now that her friend is getting married. I asked her, "So, what you gonna do after their wedding?" I meant for babysitting. She blushed and said, "I guess they will go to honeymoon". Oops! :-O

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    • T Tim Carmichael

      Yesterday, my wife, out 2 year old daughter, my mother-in-law and my wife's neice were out driving somewhere. My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'... My wife corrected her and asked her to use proper English when speaking because she doesn't want our daughter to use improper words. Then, my wife said, and I quote... "Y'all need to think about what you're saying..." I laughed and pointed out her word usage; the hit in the arm was worth it! Tim

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      "Y'all" is a proper word. Here's a texas-oriented example... Half a dozen English teachers are out for a day's hunt. One of them stops and says, "I'm gonna put on a blindfold and spin around shooting my shotgun. I suggest y'all duck." I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      • T Tom Delany

        I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

        WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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        Marc Clifton
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        Murdering, eh? I guess it's the times. Back when I was a tike, it was "butchering English". Y'all remember them thar days, righty? Marc

        Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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        • T Tom Delany

          I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

          WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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          Jerry Hammond
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          I think the king of malapropisms was Sam Goldwyn of MGM fame: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_goldwyn.html[^]

          “If we are all in agreement on the decision - then I propose we postpone further discussion of this matter until our next meeting to give ourselves time to develop disagreement and perhaps gain some understanding of what the decision is all about.”-Alfred P. Sloan

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          • T Tim Carmichael

            Yesterday, my wife, out 2 year old daughter, my mother-in-law and my wife's neice were out driving somewhere. My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'... My wife corrected her and asked her to use proper English when speaking because she doesn't want our daughter to use improper words. Then, my wife said, and I quote... "Y'all need to think about what you're saying..." I laughed and pointed out her word usage; the hit in the arm was worth it! Tim

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            Ravi Bhavnani
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            Tim Carmichael wrote:

            My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'...

            A Massachusetts native, I assume? :) /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            • T Tom Delany

              I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

              WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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              El Corazon
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              Tom Delany wrote:

              Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible...

              you must not have interesting code. My code threatens other code all the time. But the appropriate libraries each pay their own share of the ransom and all is well. The 3D graphics card and the driver that goes with it, are the leaders of a mob-like control over my computer -- extracting payments from all other programs. Everytime I take him out, another more powerful one is put in and the same thing happens. You must have boring code from the sound of it. My life is many things, but never boring. Sometimes I even want to trade.... :sigh:

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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              • T Tom Delany

                I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

                WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                Judah Gabriel Himango
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                Tom Delany wrote:

                But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes

                :-O I used to be guilty of that too. Judging by the 100,000+ results on google for "intensive purposes", looks like it's a common mistake.

                Tom Delany wrote:

                Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point"

                One of the guys here at work has used that twice. I haven't said anything. :)

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                • T Tim Carmichael

                  Yesterday, my wife, out 2 year old daughter, my mother-in-law and my wife's neice were out driving somewhere. My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'... My wife corrected her and asked her to use proper English when speaking because she doesn't want our daughter to use improper words. Then, my wife said, and I quote... "Y'all need to think about what you're saying..." I laughed and pointed out her word usage; the hit in the arm was worth it! Tim

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                  "idear" is pretty bad... I also really hate it when people use "ideal" instead of "idea". As in, "I had an ideal last night." WRONG WORD!

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                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                    Tom Delany wrote:

                    But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes

                    :-O I used to be guilty of that too. Judging by the 100,000+ results on google for "intensive purposes", looks like it's a common mistake.

                    Tom Delany wrote:

                    Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point"

                    One of the guys here at work has used that twice. I haven't said anything. :)

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                    Judah Himango wrote:

                    I used to be guilty of that too.

                    I am still! :omg:

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                    • R realJSOP

                      "Y'all" is a proper word. Here's a texas-oriented example... Half a dozen English teachers are out for a day's hunt. One of them stops and says, "I'm gonna put on a blindfold and spin around shooting my shotgun. I suggest y'all duck." I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      My wife still gets onto me for saying gonna :laugh:

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                      • R Ravi Bhavnani

                        Tim Carmichael wrote:

                        My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'...

                        A Massachusetts native, I assume? :) /ravi

                        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                        A Massachusetts native

                        I am, and my mother says "idear", I don't know how she managed to raise six kids without passing that on.

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                        • T Tom Delany

                          I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

                          WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                          Leslie Sanford
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                          Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English. There is a problem with the above sentence.

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                          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                            Tom Delany wrote:

                            But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes

                            :-O I used to be guilty of that too. Judging by the 100,000+ results on google for "intensive purposes", looks like it's a common mistake.

                            Tom Delany wrote:

                            Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point"

                            One of the guys here at work has used that twice. I haven't said anything. :)

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                            Judah Himango wrote:

                            intensive purposes

                            I used it once as a joke in a presentation.... how to get more out of your CPU.... for intensive purposes... ;)

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                              Tom Delany wrote:

                              Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible...

                              you must not have interesting code. My code threatens other code all the time. But the appropriate libraries each pay their own share of the ransom and all is well. The 3D graphics card and the driver that goes with it, are the leaders of a mob-like control over my computer -- extracting payments from all other programs. Everytime I take him out, another more powerful one is put in and the same thing happens. You must have boring code from the sound of it. My life is many things, but never boring. Sometimes I even want to trade.... :sigh:

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                              Tom Delany
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                              :sigh: Extremely boring... :sigh:

                              WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                              • T Tom Delany

                                :sigh: Extremely boring... :sigh:

                                WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                                inject an ex husband into the code.... I hear they liven up anything.... :rolleyes: ;)

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                • T Tom Delany

                                  I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

                                  WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  Yes, those are bad. Along with "irregardless", "acrosst", and "could of" (and its variants). More subtle is "different than" instead of "different from". Also the use of "taste" when "flavor" (flavour?) is correct. And my own personal crusade; "Since" should only be used with chronology, use "because" for cause-and-effect.

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                                  "threaten"

                                  Unsafe code?

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                                    Murdering, eh? I guess it's the times. Back when I was a tike, it was "butchering English". Y'all remember them thar days, righty? Marc

                                    Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    Y'all remember them thar days, righty?

                                    yeah, I remember them days.... why we used to walk ten miles in the snow to school every morning while chopping down trees for firewood, and then collect them trees and carry them back on the way home.... yup, life was hard back then, the youth of today got it easy! :-D

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                    • L Leslie Sanford

                                      Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English. There is a problem with the above sentence.

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                                      Leslie Sanford wrote:

                                      Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English.

                                      English is harder than most programming languages...

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                                        Leslie Sanford wrote:

                                        Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English.

                                        English is harder than most programming languages...

                                        Citizen 20.1.01

                                        'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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                                        Leslie Sanford
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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        English is harder than most programming languages...

                                        True. And it's especially true if English is not someone's native language. But that really wasn't my point exactly. In that sentence, I was misusing an English idiom on purpose.

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                                        • L Leslie Sanford

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          English is harder than most programming languages...

                                          True. And it's especially true if English is not someone's native language. But that really wasn't my point exactly. In that sentence, I was misusing an English idiom on purpose.

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                                          Ha! Goes to show how i've gotten used to automatically correcting for such things while reading. (also, i mistook your second sentence for a sig... :-O )

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