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  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

    This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash.

    "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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    Paul Conrad
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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

    This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash.

    Thank you, I was about to say something along those lines :-D When you have someone like myself, who can program in 15+ languages, who really cares about popularity of a language at that point? It is just then a matter of which language helps get the job done in a good, efficient manner.

    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      trash.

      Just one word makes a whole lot of difference :laugh:

      You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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      Paul Conrad
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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      ust one word makes a whole lot of difference

      :-D Yes, it certainly does. Seems every time someone one posts the stats from the said site, I kind of just yawn :rolleyes: If I recall, last time someone posted about programming language popularity from that site, it was agreed that it could be very skewed and not giving the whole picture.

      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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      • G Gene OK

        TIOBE Programming Community Index for April 2008[^] I tried to understand the methodology, really...

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        Mike Puddephat
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        Off-topic, I realise - but when you view the source of any of the pages on http://www.tiobe.com[^], you will see the content is automatically generated through JavaScript. Now I initially thought this was quite nice. Then, I wondered how such a site would be indexed by search engines. If you turn off JavaScript, you don't see very much. Anyway...

        www.riversideinternet.com[^] www.mikepuddephat.com[^]

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        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

          This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash.

          "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          As if most of the members of CP would ever admit to something other than an MS controlled tech as being viable. Anecdotal evidence would suggest that C++ and Java each carry a user base larger than .NET.

          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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            Off-topic, I realise - but when you view the source of any of the pages on http://www.tiobe.com[^], you will see the content is automatically generated through JavaScript. Now I initially thought this was quite nice. Then, I wondered how such a site would be indexed by search engines. If you turn off JavaScript, you don't see very much. Anyway...

            www.riversideinternet.com[^] www.mikepuddephat.com[^]

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            Gene OK
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            Your reply is far more interesting than the TIOBE site findings! I posted it as a joke, but I guess my humor wasn't shining through. :-D

            CodeWiz51 -- Life is not a spectator sport. I came to play. Code's Musings | Code's Articles

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            • G Gene OK

              TIOBE Programming Community Index for April 2008[^] I tried to understand the methodology, really...

              CodeWiz51 -- Life is not a spectator sport. I came to play. Code's Musings | Code's Articles

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              Roger Wright
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              Pascal is moving up - there is justice in the world! :-D

              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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              • P Paul Conrad

                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash.

                Thank you, I was about to say something along those lines :-D When you have someone like myself, who can program in 15+ languages, who really cares about popularity of a language at that point? It is just then a matter of which language helps get the job done in a good, efficient manner.

                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                Paul Conrad wrote:

                who really cares about popularity of a language at that point? It is just then a matter of which language helps get the job done in a good, efficient manner.

                Exactly. I'd program in logo[^] or in (God forbid I should have to go back to that :suss:) VB6, if I knew it was the tool that will get the job done in a proper manner. I suppose though, the words, in a proper manner instantly rule out VB6 :D

                "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  As if most of the members of CP would ever admit to something other than an MS controlled tech as being viable. Anecdotal evidence would suggest that C++ and Java each carry a user base larger than .NET.

                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                  Anecdotal evidence would suggest that C++ and Java each carry a user base larger than .NET.

                  I know it to be true of Java. Heck, most of the jobs I had were Java related. I don't make any claims either way to C++ though.

                  "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                    trash.

                    Just one word makes a whole lot of difference :laugh:

                    You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                    Ah Rama, but its the journey and not the destination that should be valued :D

                    "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                      who really cares about popularity of a language at that point? It is just then a matter of which language helps get the job done in a good, efficient manner.

                      Exactly. I'd program in logo[^] or in (God forbid I should have to go back to that :suss:) VB6, if I knew it was the tool that will get the job done in a proper manner. I suppose though, the words, in a proper manner instantly rule out VB6 :D

                      "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                      Paul Conrad
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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      program in logo

                      That was my first programming language to learn. It was long time ago in a galaxy far, far away :laugh:

                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                        program in logo

                        That was my first programming language to learn. It was long time ago in a galaxy far, far away :laugh:

                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                        Paul Conrad wrote:

                        It was long time ago in a galaxy far, far away

                        Tell me about it :) We programmed in Qbasic when I was in Junior High then we went for our summer vacation and when we came back all the XTs had been exchanged for Macs (Apple IIe IIRC) and that's when we started to learn Logo :)

                        "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                          Paul Conrad wrote:

                          It was long time ago in a galaxy far, far away

                          Tell me about it :) We programmed in Qbasic when I was in Junior High then we went for our summer vacation and when we came back all the XTs had been exchanged for Macs (Apple IIe IIRC) and that's when we started to learn Logo :)

                          "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                          Apple IIe

                          That's what I was introduced to it with. When the Apple IIe first came out.

                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                            Apple IIe

                            That's what I was introduced to it with. When the Apple IIe first came out.

                            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            Dude, you must have been at Killarney Junior High. :cool:

                            "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                              Dude, you must have been at Killarney Junior High. :cool:

                              "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                              Paul Conrad
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                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                              you must have been at Killarney Junior High

                              Nope. I was in the fourth grade at a private Christian school, that shall remain unnamed for kid-sister friendliness :rolleyes:

                              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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