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  • T Trevortni

    My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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    If Vista is still on his machine, he'll have Vista problems. He doesn't need to install into XP on a VM - that's pointless and does nothing but a) take up too much disk space, and b) slow down the compiler.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    • T Trevortni

      My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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      Jim Crafton
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      You should tell your roommate to lay off the weed. Save it for weekends, not Mondays! :)

      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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        If Vista is still on his machine, he'll have Vista problems. He doesn't need to install into XP on a VM - that's pointless and does nothing but a) take up too much disk space, and b) slow down the compiler.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        He's asking if VS itself installs a ghost VM of XP to work around Vista's problems, not if he should.

        Cheers, Vikram.


        The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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        • T Trevortni

          My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          No way. If you're having headaches with Vista, do your dev on XP, but unless you thoroughly know your user base and they're not using Vista, don't forget to test on it!

          Cheers, Vikram.


          The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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          • T Trevortni

            My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

            modified on Monday, May 5, 2008 1:37 PM

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            Chris Austin
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            That explains the size of the download.

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            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

              He's asking if VS itself installs a ghost VM of XP to work around Vista's problems, not if he should.

              Cheers, Vikram.


              The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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              realJSOP
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              Well, that's just stupid...

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              • T Trevortni

                My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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                Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                • E El Corazon

                  Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                  I installed it on Home Premium/32-bit with any problems, and it runs fine.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  • T Trevortni

                    My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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                    Paul M Watt
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                    I am running VS2005 and VS2008 on vista machines with relatively no problems. The only issue that I have run accross is in my COM development. If I want visual studio to auto register my components after I compile I have to run VS as an administrator.

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                    • E El Corazon

                      Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      VS on Vista is running fine for me - no problems at all. I have to say that I find Vista to be sweet as a nut - not on a par with Windows 2003, but definitely better than XP.

                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                      • J Jim Crafton

                        You should tell your roommate to lay off the weed. Save it for weekends, not Mondays! :)

                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                        Haha, yes.  See this[^].

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                        • E El Corazon

                          Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          My only, probably unrelated, problem is missing Intellisense for XAML, on 2008 on Vista.  No idea what caused it, but nothing brings it back.  I run 2005 and 2008 at work, and 2008 at home, on my little Celeron 1.6GHz laptop with 1.25GB ram, no problems.

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                          • P Paul M Watt

                            I am running VS2005 and VS2008 on vista machines with relatively no problems. The only issue that I have run accross is in my COM development. If I want visual studio to auto register my components after I compile I have to run VS as an administrator.

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                            I now always have to run 2008 as admin at work, or it just crashes on startup.  I'm sure it's not a Vista issue, and suspect third party code to be responsible.

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                              My only, probably unrelated, problem is missing Intellisense for XAML, on 2008 on Vista.  No idea what caused it, but nothing brings it back.  I run 2005 and 2008 at work, and 2008 at home, on my little Celeron 1.6GHz laptop with 1.25GB ram, no problems.

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Take a look at Karl's post here[^] and see if it helps.

                              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                              • T Trevortni

                                My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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                                Trevortni wrote:

                                I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not

                                Then you know wrong grasshopper.


                                "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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                                  I now always have to run 2008 as admin at work, or it just crashes on startup.  I'm sure it's not a Vista issue, and suspect third party code to be responsible.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I wasnt having any troubles with VS2005 or 2008 until I installed VSS2005 and now VS2005 randomly crashes with an error not implemented or always shows this error when checking in or out but doesnt crash and completes the operation. This happens on my desktop but my laptop runs sweet as a nut. Took some getting used to but I dont dislike Vista.

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                                  • T Trevortni

                                    My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    Trevortni wrote:

                                    I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not.

                                    Why? Don't just make a statement like that without putting in your tale of woe and battle scars gained.

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                                      Trevortni wrote:

                                      I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not.

                                      Why? Don't just make a statement like that without putting in your tale of woe and battle scars gained.

                                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                                      My blog | My articles

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                                      Trevortni
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                                      Why? Because before I put that in there, all I was getting was responses telling me not to program in Vista. I was just trying to reiterate that I don't care about the advisability of using Vista, in an attempt to reduce responses that don't answer my question. So now I'm getting a whole lot of other responses that don't answer my question in completely different ways. :)

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                                      • T Trevortni

                                        Why? Because before I put that in there, all I was getting was responses telling me not to program in Vista. I was just trying to reiterate that I don't care about the advisability of using Vista, in an attempt to reduce responses that don't answer my question. So now I'm getting a whole lot of other responses that don't answer my question in completely different ways. :)

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Reading the responses, I believe your question has been answered - VS2008 doesn't run in an XP VM on Vista. It's been coded to work *ahem* properly in Vista.

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                                        • T Trevortni

                                          My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

                                          modified on Monday, May 5, 2008 1:37 PM

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                                          Pierre Leclercq
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                                          When you say VS8 you mean Visual Studio 2005 right? From my experience VS8 and VS9 (2005 and 2008) work fine under Vista 32 bits, and also Vista 64 bits.

                                          Trevortni wrote:

                                          whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not

                                          So rather than blindly believing the negative buzz about vista you should see for yourself, and try it out.

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