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  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

    He's asking if VS itself installs a ghost VM of XP to work around Vista's problems, not if he should.

    Cheers, Vikram.


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    Well, that's just stupid...

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    • T Trevortni

      My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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      Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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        Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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        I installed it on Home Premium/32-bit with any problems, and it runs fine.

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        • T Trevortni

          My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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          I am running VS2005 and VS2008 on vista machines with relatively no problems. The only issue that I have run accross is in my COM development. If I want visual studio to auto register my components after I compile I have to run VS as an administrator.

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            Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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            Pete OHanlon
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            VS on Vista is running fine for me - no problems at all. I have to say that I find Vista to be sweet as a nut - not on a par with Windows 2003, but definitely better than XP.

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            • J Jim Crafton

              You should tell your roommate to lay off the weed. Save it for weekends, not Mondays! :)

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              Haha, yes.  See this[^].

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              • E El Corazon

                Am I the only person not having problems installing VS on Vista? Admitedly I have the VMs but ended up not using them, I managed to get 2003.Net, 2005 and 2008 installed on Vista U64 with only minor problems.

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                My only, probably unrelated, problem is missing Intellisense for XAML, on 2008 on Vista.  No idea what caused it, but nothing brings it back.  I run 2005 and 2008 at work, and 2008 at home, on my little Celeron 1.6GHz laptop with 1.25GB ram, no problems.

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                • P Paul M Watt

                  I am running VS2005 and VS2008 on vista machines with relatively no problems. The only issue that I have run accross is in my COM development. If I want visual studio to auto register my components after I compile I have to run VS as an administrator.

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                  I now always have to run 2008 as admin at work, or it just crashes on startup.  I'm sure it's not a Vista issue, and suspect third party code to be responsible.

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                    My only, probably unrelated, problem is missing Intellisense for XAML, on 2008 on Vista.  No idea what caused it, but nothing brings it back.  I run 2005 and 2008 at work, and 2008 at home, on my little Celeron 1.6GHz laptop with 1.25GB ram, no problems.

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Take a look at Karl's post here[^] and see if it helps.

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      I now always have to run 2008 as admin at work, or it just crashes on startup.  I'm sure it's not a Vista issue, and suspect third party code to be responsible.

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                      I wasnt having any troubles with VS2005 or 2008 until I installed VSS2005 and now VS2005 randomly crashes with an error not implemented or always shows this error when checking in or out but doesnt crash and completes the operation. This happens on my desktop but my laptop runs sweet as a nut. Took some getting used to but I dont dislike Vista.

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                      • T Trevortni

                        My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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                        Trevortni wrote:

                        I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not

                        Then you know wrong grasshopper.


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                        • T Trevortni

                          My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          Trevortni wrote:

                          I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not.

                          Why? Don't just make a statement like that without putting in your tale of woe and battle scars gained.

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                            Trevortni wrote:

                            I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not.

                            Why? Don't just make a statement like that without putting in your tale of woe and battle scars gained.

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                            Why? Because before I put that in there, all I was getting was responses telling me not to program in Vista. I was just trying to reiterate that I don't care about the advisability of using Vista, in an attempt to reduce responses that don't answer my question. So now I'm getting a whole lot of other responses that don't answer my question in completely different ways. :)

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                            • T Trevortni

                              Why? Because before I put that in there, all I was getting was responses telling me not to program in Vista. I was just trying to reiterate that I don't care about the advisability of using Vista, in an attempt to reduce responses that don't answer my question. So now I'm getting a whole lot of other responses that don't answer my question in completely different ways. :)

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                              Reading the responses, I believe your question has been answered - VS2008 doesn't run in an XP VM on Vista. It's been coded to work *ahem* properly in Vista.

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                              • T Trevortni

                                My roommate just mentioned that he heard that Visual Studio 8 gets around Vista problems by installing an XP Virtual Machine. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this? Edit: Maybe I should clarify: I'm not asking whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not. I'm asking whether anyone knows anything about the underlying architecture of VS8 on Vista, one way or the other. Does anybody actually use VS8 on Vista who would know for sure?

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                                Pierre Leclercq
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                                When you say VS8 you mean Visual Studio 2005 right? From my experience VS8 and VS9 (2005 and 2008) work fine under Vista 32 bits, and also Vista 64 bits.

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                                whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not

                                So rather than blindly believing the negative buzz about vista you should see for yourself, and try it out.

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                                  Reading the responses, I believe your question has been answered - VS2008 doesn't run in an XP VM on Vista. It's been coded to work *ahem* properly in Vista.

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                                  Trevortni
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                                  No, actually, my question hasn't even been addressed. I'm asking if VS2008 runs "properly" in Vista because it's actually running on it's own XP VM. All people are saying is that it runs on Vista - which I knew before I posted - and nobody's bothering to even address the question of architecture.

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                                  • T Trevortni

                                    No, actually, my question hasn't even been addressed. I'm asking if VS2008 runs "properly" in Vista because it's actually running on it's own XP VM. All people are saying is that it runs on Vista - which I knew before I posted - and nobody's bothering to even address the question of architecture.

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    Sorry, but perhaps I wasn't making myself clear when I said that it didn't run in an XP VM, and that it ran properly. How can I put it plainly - it is not running in a VM - it's running directly on the OS (Vista). There's only so many ways that I can say this.

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                                    • P Pierre Leclercq

                                      When you say VS8 you mean Visual Studio 2005 right? From my experience VS8 and VS9 (2005 and 2008) work fine under Vista 32 bits, and also Vista 64 bits.

                                      Trevortni wrote:

                                      whether programming in Vista is a good idea - I know it's not

                                      So rather than blindly believing the negative buzz about vista you should see for yourself, and try it out.

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                                      Trevortni
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                                      Blindly believing negative buzz? I am the person primarily in charge of Vista compatibility at my company. I HATE VISTA. And I think I have good reason to. Stop assuming, before I'm forced to pull out the ultimate forum weapon: name-calling. :-) As for VS2008, you are still missing the point, like (almost) every single other person who has responded to the question. I don't care how well VS2008 works under Vista, I'm wondering whether the underlying method for how it works with Vista is by using a VM, like my friend heard. Does anybody know?

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                                        Sorry, but perhaps I wasn't making myself clear when I said that it didn't run in an XP VM, and that it ran properly. How can I put it plainly - it is not running in a VM - it's running directly on the OS (Vista). There's only so many ways that I can say this.

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                                        Trevortni
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                                        Sorry, I thought you were summing up all the other people that said it works *somehow* on Vista, without the user needing to manually use a VM. But you're actually telling me that VS2008 does not internally use a VM to work with Vista?

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                                        • T Trevortni

                                          Sorry, I thought you were summing up all the other people that said it works *somehow* on Vista, without the user needing to manually use a VM. But you're actually telling me that VS2008 does not internally use a VM to work with Vista?

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          Trevortni wrote:

                                          But you're actually telling me that VS2008 does not internally use a VM to work with Vista?

                                          Correct.

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