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  • F fboule

    My opinion in using gotos is like C programming: it is up to the programmer to code properly. Some are so skilled to write ugly C code. If used properly, goto can could may might have a place in our hearts. E.g. the MS-DOS batch script below (tested on WinXP):

    @echo off
    set i=0
    

    :loop
    set /a i=%i%+1
    echo Loop %i%
    if not %i% == 10 goto :loop

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    fboule wrote:

    the MS-DOS batch script below

    If under XP, then use a for loop to do that.

    ~RaGE();

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    • P Philip Laureano

      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

      Rule #1: Don't use goto. Rule #2: Know when to break Rule #1.

      Rule #3: Never goto #2.

      Do you know...LinFu?

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      Robert Rohde
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      Philip Laureano wrote:

      Rule #1: Don't use goto. Rule #2: Know when to break Rule #1. Rule #3: Never goto #2.

      Do you like recursion? :) Rule #4: Know when to break Rule #3. Rule #5: Never goto #4 Rule #6: Know when to break Rule #5. ... Robert

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      • P Patrick Klug

        Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

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        modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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        Oakman
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        "Switch" is just "on x GOTO" so, yeah, all the time.

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        • L leppie

          Hi, my name is leppie, and I use goto occasionally.

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          Roger Alsing 0
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          In periods or on a weekly basis?

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            In periods or on a weekly basis?

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            leppie
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            Apply as needed :) (once in 6 months or so).

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            • L leppie

              Hi, my name is leppie, and I use goto occasionally.

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              BadKarma
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              Burn him, he is a witch ;P

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                Again, not really. I've encountered situations (even recently) where I felt that a few goto statements will save me from writing a buttload of ugly nested if-if-if statements.

                Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                if-if-if statements

                Wouldn't evaluating an expression upfront to a variable and then using a switch-case provide an elegant in that case?

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                • P Patrick Klug

                  Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

                  Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

                  modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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                  Jamie Nordmeyer
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                  The only time I've ever used goto was in the QBasic days, and in Visual Basic when I was first learning that language. I've never used it in any C flavor language, and never allow it when doing code reviews at work.

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                  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                    if-if-if statements

                    Wouldn't evaluating an expression upfront to a variable and then using a switch-case provide an elegant in that case?

                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                    Tech Gossips
                    A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                    1. switch works only with integral types and so it cannot be used everywhere. 2. switch uses goto internally.

                    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                    • B BadKarma

                      Burn him, he is a witch ;P

                      Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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                      leppie
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                      And now I will turn you into a frog! POOF!

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                      • P Patrick Klug

                        Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

                        Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

                        modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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                        BadKarma
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                        #50

                        under any circumstance use goto I use the following

                        #define BeamMeUp(_goto) goto _goto
                        
                        int AtPlanet()
                        {
                        bool bToDangerous = true;
                        
                        if(bToDangerous)
                          BeamMeUp(scotty);
                        else
                          Fight();
                        
                        scotty:
                          return ToEnterprise();
                        
                        }
                        

                        Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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                        • P Patrick Klug

                          Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

                          Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

                          modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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                          leckey 0
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                          Goto's are evil and real programmers never use them.

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                          • P Patrick Klug

                            Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

                            Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

                            modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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                            Ri Qen Sin
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                            I use label: … goto label whenever I have to use while (true) { … }

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                              Philip Laureano wrote:

                              Rule #1: Don't use goto. Rule #2: Know when to break Rule #1. Rule #3: Never goto #2.

                              Do you like recursion? :) Rule #4: Know when to break Rule #3. Rule #5: Never goto #4 Rule #6: Know when to break Rule #5. ... Robert

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                              Steve Hansen
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                              To learn recursion you first need to know recursion!

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                              • L leppie

                                And now I will turn you into a frog! POOF!

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                                BadKarma
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                                Thanks allot leppie :mad: now i'm forced to make jumps :laugh:

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                                • P Patrick Klug

                                  Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

                                  Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

                                  modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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                                  John M Drescher
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                                  I have less than 5 gotos in the 500K+ lines of code I have written in the last 10 years so its quite rare for me.

                                  John

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                                  • P Patrick Klug

                                    Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

                                    Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

                                    modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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                                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                    Pakl wrote:

                                    I am interested if you are using goto's

                                    No, but I reserve the right to use it and not feel bad.

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                                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                      1. switch works only with integral types and so it cannot be used everywhere. 2. switch uses goto internally.

                                      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      if uses goto internally. while uses goto internally. for uses goto internally. function calls use goto internally. Your CPU only knows goto internally. There's a reason why modern programming languages provide a collection of wrappers to hide goto from you.

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                                      • P Patrick Klug

                                        Hey guys, My former team mate used goto's quite often (to my despair). I just published a small post on when to (not) use goto on my blog[^] where I try to look at this in a pragmatic way. I am interested if you are using goto's (or know someone who does?). Opinions? cheers, Pakl PS: This is just a blunt advertisment for my blog so I can lure you into it and become rich and famous. :-\

                                        Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

                                        modified on Monday, May 19, 2008 4:44 AM

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                                        Alan Balkany
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                                        I haven't used a goto in 25 years of programming, but I like the option to be available in case I need it. It's been claimed that a goto is useful for exiting deeply-nested code when an error is detected. But in the evolution of my programming style, my methods have become much shorter and only rarely have deep nesting. I can only think of two occasions a goto was necessary. One was when I encountered a bug in IBM's PL/I compiler back in the 1980s, and I needed a goto to force sequential execution. (The next statement wasn't being executed.) The other time was in grad school in the 1990s when I was implementing a system that translated a flow graph drawn on the screen into C code. Each mechanism (a box on the screen representing a library component) was assigned a label, and gotos were part of the automatically-generated template for sequencing their execution. A goto would also be useful for a rapid fix under time pressure. It's good that gotos are discouraged. They're easy and the temptation to use them is great for that reason. (I used them constantly in BASIC when I first learned to program.) But code is already complex enough without making it more complex with abrupt changes in flow.

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                                          Thanks allot leppie :mad: now i'm forced to make jumps :laugh:

                                          Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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                                          leppie
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                                          Haha, I didnt mean it like that, but go ahead :)

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