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  • T toxcct

    if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

    enum BOOL {
    FALSE = 0,
    TRUE
    };

    An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

    //if defined like this :
    typedef int BOOL;

    //this can be a mistake :
    BOOL b = 4;
    if (b == true) {
    //never enters here
    // because 4 != 1
    }

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    modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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    toxcct wrote:

    BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this : enum BOOL { FALSE = 0, TRUE };

    Where did you get this information from? Under Windows, BOOL is defined as an integer in Windef.h

    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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    • T toxcct

      CPallini wrote:

      typedef int BOOL

      not really maybe :cool:

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      toxcct wrote:

      not really

      You've gotta be kidding me. CPallini is correct.

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      • T toxcct

        CPallini wrote:

        typedef int BOOL

        not really maybe :cool:

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        Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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          toxcct wrote:

          BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this : enum BOOL { FALSE = 0, TRUE };

          Where did you get this information from? Under Windows, BOOL is defined as an integer in Windef.h

          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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          humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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          • T toxcct

            if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

            enum BOOL {
            FALSE = 0,
            TRUE
            };

            An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

            //if defined like this :
            typedef int BOOL;

            //this can be a mistake :
            BOOL b = 4;
            if (b == true) {
            //never enters here
            // because 4 != 1
            }

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            modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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            toxcct wrote:

            0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

            Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

            In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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            • T toxcct

              humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

              Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

                Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                in the Windows world.

                man, we are not alone ! ;P

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                • CPalliniC CPallini

                  toxcct wrote:

                  0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

                  Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                  what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                    toxcct wrote:

                    0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

                    Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                    Jhony george
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                    hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                    Born to win...!

                    modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                    • T toxcct

                      what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                      CPallini
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                      But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                      In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                      • CPalliniC CPallini

                        But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                        you're right, i fixed it.

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                        • CPalliniC CPallini

                          Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                          May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                            May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                            May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                            come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                              what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                              Cedric Moonen
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                              toxcct wrote:

                              doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                              Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                              Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                                come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                                toxcct wrote:

                                come on, have you ever worked under linux ?

                                Yes, why?

                                toxcct wrote:

                                Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... [D'Oh!]

                                So, I don't get the point here. I have worked on development projects on fedora, debian and ubuntu. Linux does not have a BOOL datatype as far as I know. I say - BOOL belongs to Windows. Comments?

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                                • T toxcct

                                  if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

                                  enum BOOL {
                                  FALSE = 0,
                                  TRUE
                                  };

                                  An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

                                  //if defined like this :
                                  typedef int BOOL;

                                  //this can be a mistake :
                                  BOOL b = 4;
                                  if (b == true) {
                                  //never enters here
                                  // because 4 != 1
                                  }

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                                  modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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                                  toxcct wrote:

                                  if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist

                                  It did not exist in C89, but exists in C99[^]

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                                    toxcct wrote:

                                    doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                                    Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                                    Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                    Charting control [v1.4]

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                                    yes yes, fixed already ;)

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                                    • T toxcct

                                      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                      May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                                      come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                                      toxcct wrote:

                                      have you ever worked under linux

                                      What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                      Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                        toxcct wrote:

                                        have you ever worked under linux

                                        What kind of drug is that ? ;P

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                                        Cedric Moonen wrote:

                                        What kind of drug is that ?

                                        i'd better give up there ! lol

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                                        • J Jhony george

                                          hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                                          Born to win...!

                                          modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                                          CPallini
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                                          BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                                          // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                                          BOOL b;
                                          b = 1000;
                                          b++;

                                          You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                                          bool b;
                                          b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                                          b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                                          [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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