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  • T toxcct

    if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

    enum BOOL {
    FALSE = 0,
    TRUE
    };

    An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

    //if defined like this :
    typedef int BOOL;

    //this can be a mistake :
    BOOL b = 4;
    if (b == true) {
    //never enters here
    // because 4 != 1
    }

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    modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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    toxcct wrote:

    0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

    Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

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    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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    • T toxcct

      humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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        I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

        in the Windows world.

        man, we are not alone ! ;P

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        • CPalliniC CPallini

          toxcct wrote:

          0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

          Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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          what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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            toxcct wrote:

            0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

            Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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            Jhony george
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            hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

            Born to win...!

            modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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            • T toxcct

              what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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              CPallini
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              But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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              • CPalliniC CPallini

                But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                toxcct
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                you're right, i fixed it.

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                • CPalliniC CPallini

                  Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                    May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                    May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                    come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                    • T toxcct

                      what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                      Cedric Moonen
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                      toxcct wrote:

                      doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                      Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                      Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                      • T toxcct

                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                        May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                        come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        toxcct wrote:

                        come on, have you ever worked under linux ?

                        Yes, why?

                        toxcct wrote:

                        Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... [D'Oh!]

                        So, I don't get the point here. I have worked on development projects on fedora, debian and ubuntu. Linux does not have a BOOL datatype as far as I know. I say - BOOL belongs to Windows. Comments?

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                        • T toxcct

                          if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

                          enum BOOL {
                          FALSE = 0,
                          TRUE
                          };

                          An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

                          //if defined like this :
                          typedef int BOOL;

                          //this can be a mistake :
                          BOOL b = 4;
                          if (b == true) {
                          //never enters here
                          // because 4 != 1
                          }

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                          modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          toxcct wrote:

                          if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist

                          It did not exist in C89, but exists in C99[^]

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                          • C Cedric Moonen

                            toxcct wrote:

                            doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                            Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                            Cédric Moonen Software developer
                            Charting control [v1.4]

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                            toxcct
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                            yes yes, fixed already ;)

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                            • T toxcct

                              Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                              May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                              come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                              Cedric Moonen
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                              toxcct wrote:

                              have you ever worked under linux

                              What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                              Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                toxcct wrote:

                                have you ever worked under linux

                                What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                Charting control [v1.4]

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                                toxcct
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                                Cedric Moonen wrote:

                                What kind of drug is that ?

                                i'd better give up there ! lol

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                                • J Jhony george

                                  hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                                  Born to win...!

                                  modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                                  BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                                  // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                                  BOOL b;
                                  b = 1000;
                                  b++;

                                  You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                                  bool b;
                                  b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                                  b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                                  [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                  In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                    toxcct wrote:

                                    have you ever worked under linux

                                    What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                    Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                    Charting control [v1.4]

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    I dunno. Azk CPallini. He'z da one who abuzez drug to answer queris realllly fazzt. He haz gud drugz and gud linkz. azk him plz. :laugh:

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                                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                      May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

                                      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                      I supposed too. :laugh:

                                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                      In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                      • CPalliniC CPallini

                                        BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                                        // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                                        BOOL b;
                                        b = 1000;
                                        b++;

                                        You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                                        bool b;
                                        b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                                        b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                                        [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                                        but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                                        CPallini wrote:

                                        C has not the bool keyword

                                        looks like it has[^]

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                                        • T toxcct

                                          but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                                          CPallini wrote:

                                          C has not the bool keyword

                                          looks like it has[^]

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                                          CPallini
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                                          toxcct wrote:

                                          but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                                          Indeed. C language implicit mapping of non-zero values to true and zero value to false is more coherent.

                                          toxcct wrote:

                                          looks like it has[^]

                                          I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows. :-D

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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