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  • T toxcct

    what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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    Cedric Moonen
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    toxcct wrote:

    doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

    Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

    Cédric Moonen Software developer
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    • T toxcct

      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

      May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

      come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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      toxcct wrote:

      come on, have you ever worked under linux ?

      Yes, why?

      toxcct wrote:

      Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... [D'Oh!]

      So, I don't get the point here. I have worked on development projects on fedora, debian and ubuntu. Linux does not have a BOOL datatype as far as I know. I say - BOOL belongs to Windows. Comments?

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      • T toxcct

        if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

        enum BOOL {
        FALSE = 0,
        TRUE
        };

        An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

        //if defined like this :
        typedef int BOOL;

        //this can be a mistake :
        BOOL b = 4;
        if (b == true) {
        //never enters here
        // because 4 != 1
        }

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        modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        toxcct wrote:

        if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist

        It did not exist in C89, but exists in C99[^]

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        • C Cedric Moonen

          toxcct wrote:

          doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

          Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

          Cédric Moonen Software developer
          Charting control [v1.4]

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          toxcct
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          yes yes, fixed already ;)

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          • T toxcct

            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

            May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

            come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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            toxcct wrote:

            have you ever worked under linux

            What kind of drug is that ? ;P

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            • C Cedric Moonen

              toxcct wrote:

              have you ever worked under linux

              What kind of drug is that ? ;P

              Cédric Moonen Software developer
              Charting control [v1.4]

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              Cedric Moonen wrote:

              What kind of drug is that ?

              i'd better give up there ! lol

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              • J Jhony george

                hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

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                modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                BOOL b;
                b = 1000;
                b++;

                You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                bool b;
                b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                  toxcct wrote:

                  have you ever worked under linux

                  What kind of drug is that ? ;P

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  I dunno. Azk CPallini. He'z da one who abuzez drug to answer queris realllly fazzt. He haz gud drugz and gud linkz. azk him plz. :laugh:

                  Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                    May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                    I supposed too. :laugh:

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                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                      BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                      // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                      BOOL b;
                      b = 1000;
                      b++;

                      You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                      bool b;
                      b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                      b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                      [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                      but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                      CPallini wrote:

                      C has not the bool keyword

                      looks like it has[^]

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                      • T toxcct

                        but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                        CPallini wrote:

                        C has not the bool keyword

                        looks like it has[^]

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                        toxcct wrote:

                        but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                        Indeed. C language implicit mapping of non-zero values to true and zero value to false is more coherent.

                        toxcct wrote:

                        looks like it has[^]

                        I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows. :-D

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                        • CPalliniC CPallini

                          toxcct wrote:

                          but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                          Indeed. C language implicit mapping of non-zero values to true and zero value to false is more coherent.

                          toxcct wrote:

                          looks like it has[^]

                          I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows. :-D

                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                          CPallini wrote:

                          I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows.

                          Oh come on. You are a "C" lover. I would have expected you to know. :-D

                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                            CPallini wrote:

                            I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows.

                            Oh come on. You are a "C" lover. I would have expected you to know. :-D

                            Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                            CPallini
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                            Well, I'm a traditional-C lover: that fancy new C99 is alien to me. :laugh:

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                            In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                            • CPalliniC CPallini

                              Well, I'm a traditional-C lover: that fancy new C99 is alien to me. :laugh:

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                              Jhony george
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                              Thanks for ur kind reply to all members whoever particpated in the discussion., by, Manivannan@Congruent

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