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  • T toxcct

    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

    May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

    come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    toxcct wrote:

    come on, have you ever worked under linux ?

    Yes, why?

    toxcct wrote:

    Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... [D'Oh!]

    So, I don't get the point here. I have worked on development projects on fedora, debian and ubuntu. Linux does not have a BOOL datatype as far as I know. I say - BOOL belongs to Windows. Comments?

    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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    • T toxcct

      if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

      enum BOOL {
      FALSE = 0,
      TRUE
      };

      An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

      //if defined like this :
      typedef int BOOL;

      //this can be a mistake :
      BOOL b = 4;
      if (b == true) {
      //never enters here
      // because 4 != 1
      }

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      modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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      Nemanja Trifunovic
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      toxcct wrote:

      if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist

      It did not exist in C89, but exists in C99[^]

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      • C Cedric Moonen

        toxcct wrote:

        doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

        Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

        Cédric Moonen Software developer
        Charting control [v1.4]

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        toxcct
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        #22

        yes yes, fixed already ;)

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        • T toxcct

          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

          May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

          come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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          Cedric Moonen
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          toxcct wrote:

          have you ever worked under linux

          What kind of drug is that ? ;P

          Cédric Moonen Software developer
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            toxcct wrote:

            have you ever worked under linux

            What kind of drug is that ? ;P

            Cédric Moonen Software developer
            Charting control [v1.4]

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            toxcct
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            Cedric Moonen wrote:

            What kind of drug is that ?

            i'd better give up there ! lol

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            • J Jhony george

              hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

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              modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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              CPallini
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              BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

              // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
              BOOL b;
              b = 1000;
              b++;

              You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

              bool b;
              b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
              b++; // at runtime b remains true.

              [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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              • C Cedric Moonen

                toxcct wrote:

                have you ever worked under linux

                What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                Cédric Moonen Software developer
                Charting control [v1.4]

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                I dunno. Azk CPallini. He'z da one who abuzez drug to answer queris realllly fazzt. He haz gud drugz and gud linkz. azk him plz. :laugh:

                Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                  May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

                  Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                  I supposed too. :laugh:

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                  • CPalliniC CPallini

                    BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                    // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                    BOOL b;
                    b = 1000;
                    b++;

                    You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                    bool b;
                    b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                    b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                    [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                    toxcct
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                    #28

                    but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                    CPallini wrote:

                    C has not the bool keyword

                    looks like it has[^]

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                    • T toxcct

                      but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                      CPallini wrote:

                      C has not the bool keyword

                      looks like it has[^]

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                      CPallini
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                      #29

                      toxcct wrote:

                      but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                      Indeed. C language implicit mapping of non-zero values to true and zero value to false is more coherent.

                      toxcct wrote:

                      looks like it has[^]

                      I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows. :-D

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                      In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                      • CPalliniC CPallini

                        toxcct wrote:

                        but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                        Indeed. C language implicit mapping of non-zero values to true and zero value to false is more coherent.

                        toxcct wrote:

                        looks like it has[^]

                        I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows. :-D

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        #30

                        CPallini wrote:

                        I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows.

                        Oh come on. You are a "C" lover. I would have expected you to know. :-D

                        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          CPallini wrote:

                          I saw it, but: shhhhhh, noone, except Nemanja, knows.

                          Oh come on. You are a "C" lover. I would have expected you to know. :-D

                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                          CPallini
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                          Well, I'm a traditional-C lover: that fancy new C99 is alien to me. :laugh:

                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                          • CPalliniC CPallini

                            Well, I'm a traditional-C lover: that fancy new C99 is alien to me. :laugh:

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                            Jhony george
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            Thanks for ur kind reply to all members whoever particpated in the discussion., by, Manivannan@Congruent

                            Born to win...!

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