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  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

    toxcct wrote:

    BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this : enum BOOL { FALSE = 0, TRUE };

    Where did you get this information from? Under Windows, BOOL is defined as an integer in Windef.h

    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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    humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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      if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

      enum BOOL {
      FALSE = 0,
      TRUE
      };

      An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

      //if defined like this :
      typedef int BOOL;

      //this can be a mistake :
      BOOL b = 4;
      if (b == true) {
      //never enters here
      // because 4 != 1
      }

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      modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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      toxcct wrote:

      0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

      Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

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      • T toxcct

        humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

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        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

          I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

          in the Windows world.

          man, we are not alone ! ;P

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          • CPalliniC CPallini

            toxcct wrote:

            0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

            Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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            what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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            • CPalliniC CPallini

              toxcct wrote:

              0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

              Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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              Jhony george
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              hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

              Born to win...!

              modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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              • T toxcct

                what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                • CPalliniC CPallini

                  But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                  you're right, i fixed it.

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                  • CPalliniC CPallini

                    Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                    May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                      May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                      May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                      come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                      • T toxcct

                        what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                        Cedric Moonen
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                        toxcct wrote:

                        doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                        Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                        Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                        • T toxcct

                          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                          May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                          come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                          toxcct wrote:

                          come on, have you ever worked under linux ?

                          Yes, why?

                          toxcct wrote:

                          Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... [D'Oh!]

                          So, I don't get the point here. I have worked on development projects on fedora, debian and ubuntu. Linux does not have a BOOL datatype as far as I know. I say - BOOL belongs to Windows. Comments?

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                          • T toxcct

                            if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

                            enum BOOL {
                            FALSE = 0,
                            TRUE
                            };

                            An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

                            //if defined like this :
                            typedef int BOOL;

                            //this can be a mistake :
                            BOOL b = 4;
                            if (b == true) {
                            //never enters here
                            // because 4 != 1
                            }

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                            modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
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                            toxcct wrote:

                            if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist

                            It did not exist in C89, but exists in C99[^]

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                            • C Cedric Moonen

                              toxcct wrote:

                              doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                              Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                              Cédric Moonen Software developer
                              Charting control [v1.4]

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                              toxcct
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                              yes yes, fixed already ;)

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                              • T toxcct

                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                                come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                                toxcct wrote:

                                have you ever worked under linux

                                What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                  toxcct wrote:

                                  have you ever worked under linux

                                  What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                  Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                  Charting control [v1.4]

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                                  Cedric Moonen wrote:

                                  What kind of drug is that ?

                                  i'd better give up there ! lol

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                                  • J Jhony george

                                    hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                                    Born to win...!

                                    modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                                    BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                                    // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                                    BOOL b;
                                    b = 1000;
                                    b++;

                                    You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                                    bool b;
                                    b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                                    b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                                    [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                      toxcct wrote:

                                      have you ever worked under linux

                                      What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                      Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                      I dunno. Azk CPallini. He'z da one who abuzez drug to answer queris realllly fazzt. He haz gud drugz and gud linkz. azk him plz. :laugh:

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                                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                        May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

                                        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                        I supposed too. :laugh:

                                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                        • CPalliniC CPallini

                                          BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                                          // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                                          BOOL b;
                                          b = 1000;
                                          b++;

                                          You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                                          bool b;
                                          b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                                          b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                                          [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                                          but one has to be careful with BOOL, as I stated at the end of my most here[^]

                                          CPallini wrote:

                                          C has not the bool keyword

                                          looks like it has[^]

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