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  • T toxcct

    CPallini wrote:

    typedef int BOOL

    not really maybe :cool:

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    Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

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    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

      toxcct wrote:

      BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this : enum BOOL { FALSE = 0, TRUE };

      Where did you get this information from? Under Windows, BOOL is defined as an integer in Windef.h

      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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      humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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        if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

        enum BOOL {
        FALSE = 0,
        TRUE
        };

        An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

        //if defined like this :
        typedef int BOOL;

        //this can be a mistake :
        BOOL b = 4;
        if (b == true) {
        //never enters here
        // because 4 != 1
        }

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        modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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        toxcct wrote:

        0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

        Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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        • T toxcct

          humm, it was in the C days... but anyway, an enum is an int

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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            I was just asking where was BOOL defined as an enum. Since the C days, BOOL is an int and even the latest Windows SDK, it is so, to have C compatibility. I have never seen BOOL being defined as an enum in the Windows world.

            Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

            in the Windows world.

            man, we are not alone ! ;P

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            • CPalliniC CPallini

              toxcct wrote:

              0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

              Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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              what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                toxcct wrote:

                0x00000001 (true) or 0x00000000 (false).

                Uhmmmmmmmmmmm. Never seen a byte having so much hex digits...:-D

                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                Jhony george
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                hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                Born to win...!

                modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                • T toxcct

                  what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                  CPallini
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                  But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                  In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                  • CPalliniC CPallini

                    But it hasn't 8 hexadecimal digits. I.e. I was kidding about your binary numbers prefixed like hexadecimal ones. :)

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                    you're right, i fixed it.

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                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                      Maybe both my local help and my windef.h file are wrong?

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

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                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                      May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                        May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                        May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                        come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                        • T toxcct

                          what ????? doesn't a Byte having 8 bits ?

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                          Cedric Moonen
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                          toxcct wrote:

                          doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                          Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                          Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                          • T toxcct

                            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                            May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                            come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                            toxcct wrote:

                            come on, have you ever worked under linux ?

                            Yes, why?

                            toxcct wrote:

                            Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... [D'Oh!]

                            So, I don't get the point here. I have worked on development projects on fedora, debian and ubuntu. Linux does not have a BOOL datatype as far as I know. I say - BOOL belongs to Windows. Comments?

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                            • T toxcct

                              if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist (I prefer mention it, even it's obvious). in C++, bool is a native type. it weights 1 byte and takes the values 0_b_0000000**1** (true) or 0_b_0000000**0** (false). you can assign an integer to a bool. if it is different from 0, it equals the value "true", and will be automatically converted into 0_b_0000000**1** anyway. BOOL is different. it is an enum type inherited from the old C days. it's definition is like this :

                              enum BOOL {
                              FALSE = 0,
                              TRUE
                              };

                              An enum is actually an int, which mean it weights 4 bytes (on a 32 bits system). apparently, Microsoft implements it in a different manner, so you have to be much more careful with it. for instance :

                              //if defined like this :
                              typedef int BOOL;

                              //this can be a mistake :
                              BOOL b = 4;
                              if (b == true) {
                              //never enters here
                              // because 4 != 1
                              }

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                              modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:50 AM

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                              Nemanja Trifunovic
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                              toxcct wrote:

                              if you're coding in C, bool just don't exist

                              It did not exist in C89, but exists in C99[^]

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                              • T toxcct

                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change

                                come on, have you ever worked under linux ? Microsoft IS NOT the standard, even if 85% of the PCs worldwide are windows based... :doh:

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                                Cedric Moonen
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                                toxcct wrote:

                                have you ever worked under linux

                                What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                • C Cedric Moonen

                                  toxcct wrote:

                                  doesn't a Byte having 8 bits

                                  Yes, so it is coded 0x00 to 0xFF (hexa representation) or 0b00000000 to 0b11111111 (binary representation).

                                  Cédric Moonen Software developer
                                  Charting control [v1.4]

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                                  toxcct
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                                  yes yes, fixed already ;)

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                                  • C Cedric Moonen

                                    toxcct wrote:

                                    have you ever worked under linux

                                    What kind of drug is that ? ;P

                                    Cédric Moonen Software developer
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                                    toxcct
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                                    Cedric Moonen wrote:

                                    What kind of drug is that ?

                                    i'd better give up there ! lol

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                                    • J Jhony george

                                      hai all, about 'bool' i got idea... from all ur replies... but what about BOOL..? i am not clear...

                                      Born to win...!

                                      modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:57 PM

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                                      BOOL is fully featured integer, for instance, you can do.

                                      // WEIRD BOOL (legal) programming
                                      BOOL b;
                                      b = 1000;
                                      b++;

                                      You can't do the same with a bool variable. [added] Well, I made a sanity check, and actually VC++ compiler gives just a warning on the following code

                                      bool b;
                                      b = 1000; // Warning here (loss of info), at runtime b becomes true.
                                      b++; // at runtime b remains true.

                                      [/added] As stated by someone (Rajesh ? toxcct?) this is a reminiscence of the C language gold ol days (C has not the bool keyword). Using an int to represent Yes/No pair is simply a matter of convention (and convenience). :)

                                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                      In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                        toxcct wrote:

                                        have you ever worked under linux

                                        What kind of drug is that ? ;P

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                                        Charting control [v1.4]

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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                        I dunno. Azk CPallini. He'z da one who abuzez drug to answer queris realllly fazzt. He haz gud drugz and gud linkz. azk him plz. :laugh:

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                                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                          May be toxcct is on drugs today for a change. :laugh:

                                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                                          I supposed too. :laugh:

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke

                                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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