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  • L Lost User

    We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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    Josh Gray wrote:

    Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part?

    I doubt you have a 5kw drill capable of doing that :)

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      Josh Gray wrote:

      Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part?

      I doubt you have a 5kw drill capable of doing that :)

      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
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      Lost User
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      leppie wrote:

      I doubt you have a 5kw drill capable of doing that [Smile]

      Nope, just a dinky little 14v cordless. Seems to turn the engine with very little effort. I doubt if its even 100cc

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        We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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        Lost User
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        No, it'll be fine, a motor will idle at about 1000 rpm anyway, well within the speed of the drill. Just be ready to pull the drill off when the motor starts up.

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        • _ _Damian S_

          You realise that for about $30 you can usually buy a new pull-cord assembly from your local mower shop, right?

          ------------------------------------------- Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Just bugger off and leave me alone!!

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          _Damian S_ wrote:

          You realise that for about $30 you can usually buy a new pull-cord assembly from your local mower shop, right?

          But its not as much fun as a drill though.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          • _ _Damian S_

            Tractor + slasher = very dangerous... I have two kids under 8. Therefore me driving tractor through grass with slasher attached = very dangerous for kids. Hence chance of losing a child (under slasher) is as high as the grass (currently about a metre high in the back paddock). It's not funny when you have to explain it... :rolleyes: (Some would say it's not funny period.)

            ------------------------------------------- Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Just bugger off and leave me alone!!

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            Can't you just keep the kids indoors / away while cutting the grass? Doesn't seem an insurmountable problem...

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            • L Lost User

              We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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              TimFoxell
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              Josh, Go for it... We had the same problem with our old lawn mower, no rip cord... Dad used to start it with the drill just as you described. Laters, Tim.

              TimmyFox

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              • L Lost User

                FyreWyrm wrote:

                which body part gets the socket?

                The drill is heavier :)

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                Gary Wheeler
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                That's going a little south of the groin.

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                • H Hans Dietrich

                  [putting on safety goggles and gloves] No, that sounds fine. :)

                  Best wishes, Hans


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                  SimonRigby
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                  Yeah I agree with Hans .. sounds fine. What? Where am I going? Oh nowhere. I just left something behind this big wall. You carry on. :)

                  The only thing unpredictable about me is just how predictable I'm going to be.

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                  • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                    You'll need some kind of explosion for the finale, like a Folgers coffee can filled with siphoned gas and some Swisher Sweets. Right on! :-)


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                    SimonRigby
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                    Ah go with Chlorine and Brake Fluid .. makes a bigger bang .. and hey a nice cloud of toxic gas .. lol. As my dad used to say .. if it's worth doing it's worth doing properly :)

                    The only thing unpredictable about me is just how predictable I'm going to be.

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                    • L Lost User

                      ghle wrote:

                      Stupid idea. Use a rope.

                      Geez Im stupid. Only thing between me and hospital is CP!

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                      SimonRigby
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                      LOL It's too late for that now .. we're on a role :)

                      The only thing unpredictable about me is just how predictable I'm going to be.

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                      • L Lost User

                        We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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                        SimonRigby
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                        Hey Josh, can you give a me run down of your primary skills. Just so I can brush up to fill any potential gap in the market :)

                        The only thing unpredictable about me is just how predictable I'm going to be.

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                        • L Lost User

                          _Damian S_ wrote:

                          You realise that for about $30 you can usually buy a new pull-cord assembly from your local mower shop, right?

                          And where's the fun in that eh? The Mrs wants me to take it and have it fixed / serviced but I wanna play around and see if I can get it going. The spring for the recoil of the cord is stuffed and to get to it I have to take off one side of the crank case. I figure if I do that Ill have to make a new gasket, retighten to the correct torque etc. Doesnt seem worth the effort when a new mower from China is only $200

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                          ghle
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                          I hear ya. I justified buying a welder so I could repair a crack on the deck of my mower. Burning metal - now that is way cool! I can't understand how the starter recoil spring went under anything that needs a gasket. I've torn apart my share of mowers (and starters), and the starting mechanism is always bolted on externally. Regarding the payoff being $30/hour. If I'm lounging watching the telli, my cost ain't $30/hour. So if do it myself, I save $30/hour, not loose $60/hour. I wouldn't be working anyhow during that time. Good luck. Send pictures. We'll send flowers to cheer you up.

                          Gary

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            I say film it, and you'll probably win funniest home videos

                            Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                            Zhat
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                            Agree, and when you're done there, try hitting a fully inflated basketball with a baseball bat....it has the potential for winning an oscar!! :laugh:

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                            • L Lost User

                              We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

                              modified on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:20 PM

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                              Zhat
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                              Stupid...better to have your spouse do it...

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                              • L Lost User

                                We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                You've missed the proverbial forest because the even more proverbial trees were in the way. Getting it running implies mowing a lawn.* Why would you want to mow a lawn to begin with? Also - don't be so foolish as to water or fertilize the damn thing. All that will do is encourage growth - which, for those who mow, requires it be done more often. And doing work who's only fruits will yet more work to do is, my friend, quite insane. * Unless you like the sound of a mower, which, although preferrable to Rap and Hip-Hop, is still a taste not easily aquired.

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
                                "How do you find out if you're unwanted if everyone you try to ask tells you to go away?" - Balboos HaGadol

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                                  We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

                                  modified on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:20 PM

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                                  Geoff Gariepy
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                                  It's an exceedingly *bad* idea. If you're handy enough to clean and gap the plug, then you're handy enough to fix the rope start, it is not a complex mechanism. I recently learned through experience that it is worth the $7 or so to get proper recoil cord instead of substituting whatever you may have on hand; the stuff is readily available from the big box home improvement stores in the U.S. (Lowes, etc.) The engine will probably fire and quite possibly run, if everything is set up properly. That puts you in a position with your hands near the turning blade with potentially as much as ~6hp driving it. It is not a safe idea. Don't try running it without the blade, either. The blade provides the mass the engine uses as a flywheel, and all sorts of unpredictable stuff will happen if the engine starts to run without it. Chances are very good that if the engine has compression and the crankshaft is not bent then you will be able to make a working proposition out of it with minimal expense. Do things safely and correctly and you'll have your health so you can enjoy mowing the lawn! :-) --Geoff

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    We need an engineer, maybe Mr. Wright, to shed some light on the EMF generated by the mower spinning the drill motor fighting it out with the EMF from the grid or battery that used to be the primary driver of the drill motor.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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                                      Laurence Hudson
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                                      This is a wonderfully stupid idea, and is well worth investigating! If you have any fingers left at the conclusion of the project, let us know how it went. If you have a crisis of confidence, however, replace the recoil starter. Your various bits will thank you, however mutely.

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                                        You've missed the proverbial forest because the even more proverbial trees were in the way. Getting it running implies mowing a lawn.* Why would you want to mow a lawn to begin with? Also - don't be so foolish as to water or fertilize the damn thing. All that will do is encourage growth - which, for those who mow, requires it be done more often. And doing work who's only fruits will yet more work to do is, my friend, quite insane. * Unless you like the sound of a mower, which, although preferrable to Rap and Hip-Hop, is still a taste not easily aquired.

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
                                        "How do you find out if you're unwanted if everyone you try to ask tells you to go away?" - Balboos HaGadol

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                                        Trevortni
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                                        So, the real question is.... will attempting to fix the thing get you out of a summer of walking behind it? The original question wasn't so stupid after all. :)

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          We were given an old 2 stroke lawn mower with a broken pull start. It just so happens that in my socket set is a socket that fits the nut at the end of the crank. I got out the drill, attached the socket and gingerly turned the motor over slowly with the drill. Its got compression so I cleaned the air filter & plug, set the gap & checked the fuel lines.Should I give her a bit with the drill and see if it'll start or is it likely the engine will throw the drill into my face, shin or other body part? The conclution is a bit boring as I managed to repair the starter mechanism

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                                          Trevortni
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                                          I would definitely recommend holding the drill with one hand, while having your other hand resting under the mower, between the blades, for no apparent reason (make sure you leave plenty of room for the blades to get up to speed before intersecting with your fingers. Make sure you hold that drill loosely, as well, on the off-chance that it will buck wildly! Bonus points if you can manage to do all this with the drill actually managing to rest somehow between your legs. If you're feeling especially acrobatic, perhaps you should find some way to also get a very up-close and personal view of when the blades actually start moving - I mean, you do want to see exactly how they start moving, right? Definitely drink a case or two of beer before beginning to lower your reaction times, and if you have anything highly flammable at hand, you should be holding some in one (or both) of your hands. Let's see.... did I miss anything? I can't quite think of a way to also get your feet involved; maybe you'll have to do some firewalking first, or something. Just, you know, because. Do you like snakes?

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