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  • R Ravi Bhavnani

    (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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    modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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      For the most part he's the village idiot but I do agree with a dislike of nerdiness for nerdiness sake, if there as a CodeProject for people who own their own business and write the software I'd be there a lot talking about getting things done.


      "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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      The Nightcoder
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      True. Nerdiness isn't a virtue to strive for, but for some reason it seems to afflict most of us. Even those self-employed suckers depending on getting stuff done. I'm one of them - and that's why I'm here, finding ready-to-use code snippets and pieces of knowledge - and trying to support the community by helping people whenever I have the spare time. In any case, I doubt a CodeProject site for just self-employed professionals would be nerd-free. On the contrary, I think nerdiness (again, not a virtue but a fact) often drives people in that career direction. As in a) finding it at all interesting to program computers in the first place and b) finding it necessary to not be bossed around by incompetent people (while customers may be incompetent in my field, they usually outsmart me in theirs, so I can live with them). I know this was the case for me... :-)

      -- Peter

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      • R Ravi Bhavnani

        (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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        modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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        Gary R Wheeler
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        FooDepartmentHead? FooDirector? FooVicePresident?

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          jhaga wrote:

          FooManagerManager

          Is that FooManagerSquared, or FooManagerToThePowerOfTwo, or worse still FooCEO?

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          FooCEO is remarkably close to one of my rejects: FookUp

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            fat_boy wrote:

            And just what does 'Foo' mean anyway? You probably dont knmow, and you just use it because you think it makes you look cool because you read it in some crappy SW book written by an American, because, god knows, only an American would ever use it anyway.

            Foo is one of the most revered and ancient placeholder names ever used in computer science, along with its friend Bar (occasionally they join to become The Mighty FooBar). Using it shows experience and literacy (and/or age, possibly - which also calls for respect). What it means? That has been the subject of much musing in the industry... as has its origins. Google for "jargon file" for one particularly well-written attempt at enlightenment (also discusses the possible relation to fubar).

            fat_boy wrote:

            f*** I hate computer nerdyness.

            So what exactly are you doing on a computer programming site?

            -- Peter

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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            PeterTheSwede wrote:

            So what exactly are you doing on a computer programming site?

            Trolling endlessly on Global Warming. Stay away from the soapbox.

            Cheers, Vikram.


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              fat_boy wrote:

              And just what does 'Foo' mean anyway? You probably dont knmow, and you just use it because you think it makes you look cool because you read it in some crappy SW book written by an American, because, god knows, only an American would ever use it anyway.

              Foo is one of the most revered and ancient placeholder names ever used in computer science, along with its friend Bar (occasionally they join to become The Mighty FooBar). Using it shows experience and literacy (and/or age, possibly - which also calls for respect). What it means? That has been the subject of much musing in the industry... as has its origins. Google for "jargon file" for one particularly well-written attempt at enlightenment (also discusses the possible relation to fubar).

              fat_boy wrote:

              f*** I hate computer nerdyness.

              So what exactly are you doing on a computer programming site?

              -- Peter

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              Lost User
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              PeterTheSwede wrote:

              Foo is one ...

              Exactly. So just why does an American WW2 military acronym find get used by nerdy computer programers? Did the first programmers come form 101 airborn? Makes me want to puke!

              PeterTheSwede wrote:

              Using it shows experience and literacy (and/or age, possibly - which also calls for respect).

              That is exactly my point. Its used purely to atempt to appear more 'expert' or whatever despite the fact the user most likely isnt.

              PeterTheSwede wrote:

              So what exactly are you doing on a computer programming site?

              Sorry, did CP become the home of nerds? I thought it was for software engineers? h, by the way, I was in mechanical engineering for many years before switching to software engineering, so I have many traits of a mechanical engineer, I like beer and cars for example, and not those of a typical software engineer.

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                For the most part he's the village idiot but I do agree with a dislike of nerdiness for nerdiness sake, if there as a CodeProject for people who own their own business and write the software I'd be there a lot talking about getting things done.


                "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                John C wrote:

                For the most part he's the village idiot

                Do you really take it so seriously?

                John C wrote:

                I do agree with a dislike of nerdiness for nerdiness sake, if there as a CodeProject for people who own their own business and write the software I'd be there a lot talking about getting things done.

                Agree.

                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                  modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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                  Maidomax
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                  FooUberlord FooOverlord would be okay too.

                  bling bling

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                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                    (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                    modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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                    MRLacey
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                    I wouldn't. Go back and create an OO design. Objects shouldn't control other objects.

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                      I wouldn't. Go back and create an OO design. Objects shouldn't control other objects.

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                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                      MRLacey wrote:

                      Objects shouldn't control other objects.

                      Are you completely unfamiliar with the concept of design patterns? /ravi

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                        FooCEO?

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                        grgran
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                        Tish, tish ... don't you mean fooCIO ... after all what if he wants to create a class that manages a collection of fooCIO objects ? ;-)

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          SyntaxC4 0
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                          I'd say FooManagerCollection, or even FooManagerFactory.

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                          • R Ravi Bhavnani

                            (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

                            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                            cjdunford
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                            What's wrong with 'FooManagers'? There's a nice little convention (I first noticed it in VB though it undoubtedly started somewhere else) that if class A is a collection of class B objects, the name for class A is simply the plural of the name of class B. So, an 'Items' object is a collection of 'Item' objects. Items[i] is--an Item. Simple, obvious, works in most cases.

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                            • R Ravi Bhavnani

                              (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                              modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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                              JasonCordes
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                              A manager of managers. Good question. I would be penchant for something like FooSupervisor or MCP (for those Tron geeks out there).

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                              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                                modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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                                I don't know what kind of data structures you are using, but somewhere in there I hope you have a queue. Even if you don't need it, how can you resist creating an object named FooQueue?

                                Brian ----------------------------------------------- Never try to reason the prejudice out of a man. It was not reasoned into him, and cannot be reasoned out. - Sydney Smith (1771 - 1845) If we were to wake up some morning and find that everyone was the same race, creed and color, we would find some other cause for prejudice by noon. - George Aiken

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                                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                  (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                                  modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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                                  an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? Dear Ravi, May I suggest : MoFoManager MotherOfAllFoos FooManagerHerder If you are a Hindi speaker, may I suggest : AndherNagreeChauputRajah best, Bill

                                  "The greater the social and cultural distances between people, the more magical the light that can spring from their contact." Milan Kundera in Testaments Trahis

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                                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                    (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                                    MrPresident

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                                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                      (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                                      modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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                                      FooManagerManager would be consistent :P This is one of the things that always makes me a little uncomfortable and not satsified when writing big programs in Java. Perhaps an issue with OO in general, having large, empty hierarchies of classes... unless there is compelling logic happening at each level. It gets really tedious if you're unit-testing everything you write, and you realise you need to build something like this.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        leckey wrote:

                                        Foo Fighters

                                        I said that much further up the thread and without the space in the name. I wonder if people will like now that you have suggested it, noone liked it when I did.

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                                        rastaVnuce
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                                        Oh, we're fishing for class name compliments, are we? :)

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                                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                          (This is not a programming question). I have a bunch of Foo objects, all of which are controlled by a FooManager. What would you name an object that controls a collection of FooManagers? [edit] Foo, FooManager and the manager of FooManagers are all processes in a distributed system. [/edit] [edit] John C is right - this really does belong in the Design forum. I might have actually got more than a couple of useful answers if I'd posted there in the first place. :-D [/edit] Thanks, /ravi

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                                          modified on Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:49 PM

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                                          Rick Shaub
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                                          FooManagerManager (FooMgrMgr for short)? FooManagerPlusPlus? FooDirector? If you create a new Manager for your FooDirector, it could be named FooVP.

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