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  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    the point here is that these Muslims *chose* to immigrate to a western country but refuse to abide by its rules

    Perhaps Adnan's point* was that fats is stupid to equate wearing burqas (or are they hijabs?) with oppression? If so, I have to entirely agree with Adnan. If a Muslim woman chooses to wear a burqa of her own free will, she has every right to. * The fact that his English is almost as twisted as his mind doesn't help matters :laugh: Half the time I have a hard time figuring out what he's trying to say.

    Cheers, Vikram.


    The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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    Andy M
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    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

    If a Muslim woman chooses to wear a burqa of her own free will, she has every right to.

    If it is of her own free will then she has every right to wear it. However, if it is not free will then it is oppression. Also, while she may freely wish to wear a hijab or burqua (which ever is the one covering everything but the eyes) it must fit properly. There have been a number of near accidents where I live because of Muslim women not wearing properly fitting clothing and it obscures their vision. Unless an accident actually occurs the police are mostly unwilling to do anything because they are fearful of being called racist even although these women are committing driving offences due to their inability to properly control the vehicle.

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    • A Adnan Siddiqi

      hey kid how many Muslim states have you visited yourself? now don't give me any media link to prove your lame point.

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      Tim Craig
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      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

      hey kid how many Muslim states have you visited yourself?

      And how much time have you spent in the United States? Yet you have such a steaming pile of misinformation about us.

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        If they don't like how we do things they could always fuck off back to Pakistan or the Middle East or Saudia Arabia and get beaten up and married off or honour killed or whatver those non-oppressive regimes allow. Fucking idiots. :mad::mad::mad:

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        Ed Gadziemski
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        Or you f**king British could have left the rest of the world alone and not colonized India/Pakistan. Now your colonials are reverse colon-izing your sorry arses and you don't appreciate the f**king irony.

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        • A Adnan Siddiqi

          funny coming from a follower of a religion which forces one to wear a lil cap on head all the time even in underwear and forces believers to recruit in Army after 15 even if someone is not willing because it was said in a BOOK. Irony! eheh

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          leckey
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          Funny comming from a follower is islam, which forces women to cover their whole body all the time and submit to men, and encourages pedifilia because some retards wrote a book and forced people to believe in everything it said.

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          • E Ed Gadziemski

            Or you f**king British could have left the rest of the world alone and not colonized India/Pakistan. Now your colonials are reverse colon-izing your sorry arses and you don't appreciate the f**king irony.

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Sadly you have it bang on the nose. Bear in mind, however, colonial, that you wouldn't have a country right now if it wasn't for the British. And where the fuck is our tax???

            me, me, me

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              Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

              hey kid how many Muslim states have you visited yourself?

              And how much time have you spent in the United States? Yet you have such a steaming pile of misinformation about us.

              Helium Rhenium Titanium Carbon

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              Adnan Siddiqi
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              once. so? as far as misinformaton, Americans themselves know less about their own country than others.

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                Sadly you have it bang on the nose. Bear in mind, however, colonial, that you wouldn't have a country right now if it wasn't for the British. And where the fuck is our tax???

                me, me, me

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                leckey
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                digital man wrote:

                And where the f*** is our tax???

                I don't know. Where the fuck is it mother fucker!!!@

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                  digital man wrote:

                  And where the f*** is our tax???

                  I don't know. Where the fuck is it mother fucker!!!@

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  You've missed the point: presumably history and irony pass you by.

                  me, me, me

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    You've missed the point: presumably history and irony pass you by.

                    me, me, me

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                    Yeah, why focus on the past and dodge the issue?

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      You've missed the point: presumably history and irony pass you by.

                      me, me, me

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                      Oakman
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                      digital man wrote:

                      presumably history and irony pass you by.

                      Along with geography, orthography, and diction.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        Sadly you have it bang on the nose. Bear in mind, however, colonial, that you wouldn't have a country right now if it wasn't for the British. And where the fuck is our tax???

                        me, me, me

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                        Ed Gadziemski
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                        digital man wrote:

                        And where the f*** is our tax???

                        The cheque is in the mail. And the tea is in the harbor.

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                        • E Ed Gadziemski

                          Or you f**king British could have left the rest of the world alone and not colonized India/Pakistan. Now your colonials are reverse colon-izing your sorry arses and you don't appreciate the f**king irony.

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                          There was no Pakistan to colonize. :)

                          Cheers, Vikram.


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                            once. so? as far as misinformaton, Americans themselves know less about their own country than others.

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                            Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                            once.

                            I asked you how much time not how many times. As usual, you're either too dense to understand the question or are deliberately misinformative.

                            Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                            Americans themselves know less about their own country than others.

                            Bullshit, Adnan. You certainly don't know squat about it. You only get your information from the local terrorists. Go back to worrying about your cricket team and forget the rest of the world. You'll never understand.

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                            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                              There was no Pakistan to colonize. :)

                              Cheers, Vikram.


                              The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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                              Ed Gadziemski
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                              India/Pakistan is what I wrote.

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                              • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                There was no Pakistan to colonize. :)

                                Cheers, Vikram.


                                The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                There was no Pakistan to colonize.

                                Technically, there was no single-India either :-) Just a bunch of disconnected kingdoms.

                                Regards, Nish


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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  Imagine how it'd be if American women moved to Saudi Arabia and insisted on driving cars, not wearing veils and travelling with men? I am sure they'd all be sentenced to death.

                                  yet another proof of ignorance. American women troops in in KSA don't wear Hijab so the other foreign women in Riyadh and other don't practise Islamic dress. I think you guys trust in media more than your past religion X|

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                  American women troops in in KSA don't wear Hijab so the other foreign women in Riyadh and other don't practise Islamic dress. I think you guys trust in media more than your past religion

                                  I know a few people (from my state) who have lived/worked in Saudi and the women had to wear the hijab when they went out and also could not drive. That's what I based my observations on. If this has now changed, that's great news then.

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                    American women troops in in KSA don't wear Hijab so the other foreign women in Riyadh and other don't practise Islamic dress. I think you guys trust in media more than your past religion

                                    I know a few people (from my state) who have lived/worked in Saudi and the women had to wear the hijab when they went out and also could not drive. That's what I based my observations on. If this has now changed, that's great news then.

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                                    The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

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                                      The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      Ilíon wrote:

                                      The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

                                      :wtf: That's so completely inhumane!

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                        Ilíon wrote:

                                        The reader might recall that it was only a few years ago that the "religious police" in KSA -- agents of the State -- forced girls back into a burning building, rather than allow "immodestly dressed women" into public. Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue[^]

                                        :wtf: That's so completely inhumane!

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        Ilion
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                                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                        That's so completely inhumane!

                                        Of course it's inhumane, it's Islam!

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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          It's not ad-hominem since I was stating a well observed fact.

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                                          ad-hominem, unless I am mistaken, is a personal attack, not necessarially obne which is false, just personal, so I believe Adman is right.

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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