CPians and Fuel Efficent Cars ?
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Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
I drive a '04 Corolla and the wife has a '05 Prius. In the third stall of the garage parked for camping weekends and hauling loads is a '95 4Runner. The Corolla gets about 32mpg and the Prius gets about 50mpg.
Ray Kinsella wrote:
What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
This is hard for to answer since I've never been keen on sports cars. They aren't great for hauling cinder blocks or lumber. But, both have been excellent as commuter cars and running typical chores like going to the grocery store or costco. The Corolla has been surprisingly good for cross country trips (Dallas to Fresno and Dallas to Phoenix). I have to say I love my Corolla; I've not had any issues and it gets our small family around. My wife really likes her Prius, since her daily driving doesn't typical involve getting on the freeway it's been perfect for her. Like the Corolla, it's been trouble free the entire time we have owned it. The Corolla is a bit roomier than the Prius.
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Buick Lacrosse. Smallest/cheapest vehicle class with enough legroom for me. I'd drive a midsize/compact (supplemented with a used 4x4 for in the snow) if I could, but the former consistently have 1-2" less back travel in the seat and the latter are even worse. Locally I get ~20mpg: Half city driving, half highway driving but up/down a mountain (the 10mpg uphill murders overall fuel economy). Depending on relative flatness I get between 25 and 27.8 on the interstate driving in the left lane.
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon
I hear you. I get terrible knee pain if there is not enough legroom (and I'm only 25, not like I have arthritis). In fact, on my Nissan Altima I have my seat all the way back and it's just right. I don't expect to buy a new car any time soon, but when I do legroom will be my first consideration above anything else.
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I am 6'2. There are some compact cars that I cannot physically fit in or drive so a major factor in my car purchase decision is, Do my knees hit the dash and does my head it the roof.
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I drive a '04 Corolla and the wife has a '05 Prius. In the third stall of the garage parked for camping weekends and hauling loads is a '95 4Runner. The Corolla gets about 32mpg and the Prius gets about 50mpg.
Ray Kinsella wrote:
What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
This is hard for to answer since I've never been keen on sports cars. They aren't great for hauling cinder blocks or lumber. But, both have been excellent as commuter cars and running typical chores like going to the grocery store or costco. The Corolla has been surprisingly good for cross country trips (Dallas to Fresno and Dallas to Phoenix). I have to say I love my Corolla; I've not had any issues and it gets our small family around. My wife really likes her Prius, since her daily driving doesn't typical involve getting on the freeway it's been perfect for her. Like the Corolla, it's been trouble free the entire time we have owned it. The Corolla is a bit roomier than the Prius.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
You must be six feet tall or less. I've driven my mother's Corolla a couple of times, and I was pretty cramped (I'm 6'1"), even with the seat as far back as it would go.
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Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
Ford Mondeo diesel (ok, the Giha X) 45mpg on short runs, 55mpg on long runs. A good safety rating (4-4.5) and heated seats, great for winter mornings :cool: Elaine (austere fluffy tigress)
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You must be six feet tall or less. I've driven my mother's Corolla a couple of times, and I was pretty cramped (I'm 6'1"), even with the seat as far back as it would go.
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Fold With Us![^]Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
You must be six feet tall or less.
Oh yeah, I'm a short guy about 5'7". I have a feeling that my son will outgrow the Corolla faster than my wife and I. He's not quite 2.5 years yet and he is well over 3' (39"), he must have gotten it from his grandfathers.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Renault Megane - it's OK, but I primarily bought it for it's safety - it's a Euro NCAP 5 (the highest safety rating) and I put the safety of my kids above my old sports car.
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I looked seriously at the Renaults for precisely that reason ... excellent safety record.
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
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I drive a '04 Corolla and the wife has a '05 Prius. In the third stall of the garage parked for camping weekends and hauling loads is a '95 4Runner. The Corolla gets about 32mpg and the Prius gets about 50mpg.
Ray Kinsella wrote:
What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
This is hard for to answer since I've never been keen on sports cars. They aren't great for hauling cinder blocks or lumber. But, both have been excellent as commuter cars and running typical chores like going to the grocery store or costco. The Corolla has been surprisingly good for cross country trips (Dallas to Fresno and Dallas to Phoenix). I have to say I love my Corolla; I've not had any issues and it gets our small family around. My wife really likes her Prius, since her daily driving doesn't typical involve getting on the freeway it's been perfect for her. Like the Corolla, it's been trouble free the entire time we have owned it. The Corolla is a bit roomier than the Prius.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
Is it expensive to get the Prius serviced. I always wondered that about the hybrid cars, are they hell to maintain ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
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Ford Mondeo diesel (ok, the Giha X) 45mpg on short runs, 55mpg on long runs. A good safety rating (4-4.5) and heated seats, great for winter mornings :cool: Elaine (austere fluffy tigress)
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You appear to the most efficient motorist among your country-men! When I asked the question I was expecting people to talk in excess of 60mpg ... Boy was I disappointed !
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
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Is it expensive to get the Prius serviced. I always wondered that about the hybrid cars, are they hell to maintain ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
Ray Kinsella wrote:
Is it expensive to get the Prius serviced.
I change the oil myself if that's what you mean? As far as the big warranty inspections they've been a bit more than the corolla but not by much (~$50)
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
'05 1.3l Ford Fiesta. I get 600k to the tank (50l) in urban driving (no traffic jams though.) Girlfriend drives a '99 1.6l Ford Focus and gets 650k to the tank (60l) in urban driving. Friend had a diesel Skoda Octavia and was getting ~750k in mixed urban/inter-city driving. Now he has a 1.9l diesel Alfa-Romeo 159 and it gets... well, he just laughs and makes zooming noises.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I am 6'2. There are some compact cars that I cannot physically fit in or drive so a major factor in my car purchase decision is, Do my knees hit the dash and does my head it the roof.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayWhat compact cars have you been in that were cramped? Had a 6'4" cousin who drove a Citi Golf and had no problems. Pretty compact car that.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
Old Mercury Sable, roughly 28-30 MPG. Currently thinking about buying a motor scooter for local stuff, but since i can't actually get anywhere without hitting a highway it'd have to be one of the larger beasts (Honda Helix, etc.). 60 MPG would be fantastic...
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I hear you. I get terrible knee pain if there is not enough legroom (and I'm only 25, not like I have arthritis). In fact, on my Nissan Altima I have my seat all the way back and it's just right. I don't expect to buy a new car any time soon, but when I do legroom will be my first consideration above anything else.
I'm only 26 myself but've had the problem since I started making longer drives at 17. It's not my knee though, if my thigh isn't well supported along it's entire length it starts to ache after anywhere from 20-75 min or so (depending on how bad the legroom shortfall is), by about 2hrs even in a midsized it's to the point of being incapacitating. I drive all the way back, at maximum tilt. The altima was one of the cars that was an inch short on me. Outside of domestic brands the only car I didn't have a problem with was the toyota avalon. I didn't feel comfortable paying an extra $5k (or 3 years used) for the nicer interior though. And in any case the reliability data seems to be indicating that the redesigns GM did a few years ago have closed the reliability gap they had vs the japanese companies.
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon
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Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
1999 Honda Civic 32/38 city/highway. I commute with this car 35 miles each way on freeways. It's a good car. 2001 Honda Odyssey 18/23. Fantastic car. 1991 Plymouth Acclaim (a total pile of junk that my teenagers drive) 23 MPG city.
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Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
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What compact cars have you been in that were cramped? Had a 6'4" cousin who drove a Citi Golf and had no problems. Pretty compact car that.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
But there have been quite a few. One example I know off the top of my head, a friend of mine has a Hyndaui minivan. In order to drive it my knees are on the dash and I can't use the mirrors.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway -
You know that cycling to work ends up producing more CO2 than car pooling in an efficient car? ;P (I assume whomever did that study studied a 6'6" overweight man pedalling a tricycle up a 22 degree grad while eating four burgers on the way... and that the "efficient car" was beamed back from 2050...)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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But there have been quite a few. One example I know off the top of my head, a friend of mine has a Hyndaui minivan. In order to drive it my knees are on the dash and I can't use the mirrors.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayOuch. Those Hyuandains are pretty short folk alright. You should try a Smart. Entry through the roof for you ;)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton
I have a 2004 Saturn L300. They replaced that with the Aura (or something like that). I get 30mph on the interstate and still do well in town. It's been a great little car. It's "solid" in that you don't feel like you will fall out the bottom in some small cars, or the shaking is terrible. Excellent safety features also. The body is made of stuff that makes it harder to get dents or show scratches.
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