purchase order denied....
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You won't take down administrative stupidity with serious arguments. Ridiculing them is so much more fun! :D
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blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistThis reminds me of having to have VP authority to purchase a new PC but sufficient authority to purchase all parts necessary to build a killer machine. At 40% higher cost. I understand the bean counter checking his/her list, but surely there should be an exception clause to have mgt. exercise their perogitive to make exceptions. I already know what you are going to say....
Charlie Gilley Will program for food...
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This reminds me of having to have VP authority to purchase a new PC but sufficient authority to purchase all parts necessary to build a killer machine. At 40% higher cost. I understand the bean counter checking his/her list, but surely there should be an exception clause to have mgt. exercise their perogitive to make exceptions. I already know what you are going to say....
Charlie Gilley Will program for food...
charlieg wrote:
I already know what you are going to say....
Would I say something like "This would require employees and leaders to take responsibility for actions they aren't qualified to make, rather than relying on lists provided by people not qualified to make them and allowing them to disperse blame" ? :D Good leadership and good organization skills are as hard to find as good workers.
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Well, the problem with big companies: orders need to go through the commercial departments, which, at some point, need to justify expenses, and will judge products by their label, not their content. However, the company does SEEM to take employee monitoring laws seriously, which is not a bad thing at all. However, you should be able to explain and get the tool anyway. Which, as I take it, didn't work out.
Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton
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charlieg wrote:
I already know what you are going to say....
Would I say something like "This would require employees and leaders to take responsibility for actions they aren't qualified to make, rather than relying on lists provided by people not qualified to make them and allowing them to disperse blame" ? :D Good leadership and good organization skills are as hard to find as good workers.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistYeah, something like that :) I remember the time I walked in to the controller's office to get approval to spend something like 25K. I needed to build 15 systems for trade shows in about 3 weeks. I told him what the $$ was for, we were on a tight schedule, could I please have the credit card. While he was thinking about it, I glanced at this desk where it was covered with $20-$50 book PURCHASE ORDERS. Amazed, I politely asked him what in the heck he was doing. Seemed the company had a policy to make sure the engineers and software weenies did not duplicate book orders. Here's a guy making upwards of 6 figures tracking a library. Simply amazing. I actually went back to work for said company and could not tolerate the inbred, don't make waves, we're not paid to be smart culture. I do not tolerate a culture of stupidity very long. Mistakes everyone makes, stupidity should be hunted down and microwaved until it stops moving. And we wonder where Dilbert gets his material.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food...
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Well, the problem with big companies: orders need to go through the commercial departments, which, at some point, need to justify expenses, and will judge products by their label, not their content. However, the company does SEEM to take employee monitoring laws seriously, which is not a bad thing at all. However, you should be able to explain and get the tool anyway. Which, as I take it, didn't work out.
Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton
My director needed some items (<$1,000) and tried the Red Tape Roller Coaster. He gave up, bought it on the company credit card and sent it for reimbursement. All he had to do was write a letter of apology to Purchasing, but he got his stuff. :-\ P.S. GREAT quote, Charlie! ("Mistakes everyone makes, stupidity should be hunted down and microwaved until it stops moving.")
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To make matters worse, it was on a readonly n/w share. But I hacked the registry. :-\
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
So, let me get this straight. They disabled changing the wallpaper - for security reasons - but left access to regedit freely available? I don't believe the English language contains the right words to describe the feelings of hilarity rising up within me right now.
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Ah well, back to Notepad.
Nope. Denied. You don't even get edit or edlin in the Command window. Your only hope is copy con IHateYou.exe. Feel free to write a virus to take down the ID10Ts' systems, but you have to precompile it mentally (paper is a security risk too), and if you make any mistakes in typing, you have to start the whole file over from the beginning again. Have a Nice Day! :)
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Yeah, something like that :) I remember the time I walked in to the controller's office to get approval to spend something like 25K. I needed to build 15 systems for trade shows in about 3 weeks. I told him what the $$ was for, we were on a tight schedule, could I please have the credit card. While he was thinking about it, I glanced at this desk where it was covered with $20-$50 book PURCHASE ORDERS. Amazed, I politely asked him what in the heck he was doing. Seemed the company had a policy to make sure the engineers and software weenies did not duplicate book orders. Here's a guy making upwards of 6 figures tracking a library. Simply amazing. I actually went back to work for said company and could not tolerate the inbred, don't make waves, we're not paid to be smart culture. I do not tolerate a culture of stupidity very long. Mistakes everyone makes, stupidity should be hunted down and microwaved until it stops moving. And we wonder where Dilbert gets his material.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food...
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So, let me get this straight. They disabled changing the wallpaper - for security reasons - but left access to regedit freely available? I don't believe the English language contains the right words to describe the feelings of hilarity rising up within me right now.
Trevortni wrote:
So, let me get this straight. They disabled changing the wallpaper - for security reasons - but left access to regedit freely available?
Yes. :laugh:
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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Well, the problem with big companies: orders need to go through the commercial departments, which, at some point, need to justify expenses, and will judge products by their label, not their content. However, the company does SEEM to take employee monitoring laws seriously, which is not a bad thing at all. However, you should be able to explain and get the tool anyway. Which, as I take it, didn't work out.
Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton
Sebastian Schneider wrote:
Well, the problem with big companies: orders need to go through the commercial departments, which, at some point, need to justify expenses, and will judge products by their label, not their content.
well, actually, the company has already approved it. The company is not the problem. :) an outside group who's purpose is to prevent certain activities, which I admire, they simply have no idea how to do so, therefore these things happen. They also approve papers, and one time discussing content the guy admitted, that if he had his way none of us would talk to anyone at anytime and none of our work would ever go anywhere. Doing nothing is absolutely the safest course of action. :-D nice guy. :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."