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  • G Graham Bradshaw

    Mike Mullikin wrote:

    ended up dual-booting with Vista instead.

    What do you do about the lack of a "right-click" button? Don't Mac laptops only have one button?

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    Lost User
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    There is a little trick that creates a right click. Off the top of my head, I don't remember exactly... something like put two fingers on the pad and click or hold the Apple key and click. My son spends most of his time in Vista but I think he prefers a real mouse over a track pad so it's not an issue for him.

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      There is a little trick that creates a right click. Off the top of my head, I don't remember exactly... something like put two fingers on the pad and click or hold the Apple key and click. My son spends most of his time in Vista but I think he prefers a real mouse over a track pad so it's not an issue for him.

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      You are correct, see my above post ;)

      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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      • E Erik Westermann

        My Dell notebook is dying - one year after I bought it, the screen suddenly became blurry and bad sectors are starting to show up on the hard drive. I’m disappointed since I can usually keep a laptop for about two years, but this is my first Dell - so lesson learned. I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work. I do mostly server-based work using VS, BizTalk, SQL Server, and others like Commerce Server. I could install XP on a separate partition, but Parallels seems to do really well since Mac OS X is not Windows :) and the MacBook provides hardware support for virtualization. I am thinking of going with a MacBook Pro because it’s not a Dell, it is fast, and looks great. I am still undecided. I am on the fence and don’t mind falling on the MacBook side - but I’d like to know of your experience or if you know of someone’s experience with it. Erik

        Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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        Christian Graus
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        The Mac is super sexy. I love it. I have not yet set it up dual boot tho, can't comment on that.

        Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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        • E Erik Westermann

          My Dell notebook is dying - one year after I bought it, the screen suddenly became blurry and bad sectors are starting to show up on the hard drive. I’m disappointed since I can usually keep a laptop for about two years, but this is my first Dell - so lesson learned. I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work. I do mostly server-based work using VS, BizTalk, SQL Server, and others like Commerce Server. I could install XP on a separate partition, but Parallels seems to do really well since Mac OS X is not Windows :) and the MacBook provides hardware support for virtualization. I am thinking of going with a MacBook Pro because it’s not a Dell, it is fast, and looks great. I am still undecided. I am on the fence and don’t mind falling on the MacBook side - but I’d like to know of your experience or if you know of someone’s experience with it. Erik

          Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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          Big Daddy Farang
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          Hi Erik, I can't really help with the Mac decision. But I'm with you on the NOT a Dell part. I had a bad experience with a Dell notebook. Fortunately it wasn't mine, rather one owned by my then employer for my use. Another reason I'll never buy a Dell is those obnoxious commercials you allude to in your subject line. :laugh: Unless someone provides a compelling reason not to, I say go for it.

          BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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          • E Erik Westermann

            There is a certain culture associated with Macs, just as there is with PCs - and Macs have been off on their own for so long. Now that Macs use 'regular' hardware, they are part of the regular PC market. They are still overpriced -- but their back-to-basics design makes them hard to overlook.

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            Paul Watson
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            Erik Westermann wrote:

            They are still overpriced

            Disagree. If you only count CPU cycles and HD space then sure, you can get Dell knock-offs from China for less than a Big Mac burger. But if you count such things as packaging, fit and finish then they aren't over-priced. More to computers than feature counts IMO.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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            At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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              Hi Erik, I can't really help with the Mac decision. But I'm with you on the NOT a Dell part. I had a bad experience with a Dell notebook. Fortunately it wasn't mine, rather one owned by my then employer for my use. Another reason I'll never buy a Dell is those obnoxious commercials you allude to in your subject line. :laugh: Unless someone provides a compelling reason not to, I say go for it.

              BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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              Erik Westermann
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              I am just going through all of the scenarios...right-click - no problem ... accessing files on NTFS - no problem ... virtualization - no problem. It does not have a card reader for SD cards and the like, has just a few USB ports, and the ports are on both sides (I like to have ports at the back...but take good with the not so good).

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              • E Erik Westermann

                My Dell notebook is dying - one year after I bought it, the screen suddenly became blurry and bad sectors are starting to show up on the hard drive. I’m disappointed since I can usually keep a laptop for about two years, but this is my first Dell - so lesson learned. I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work. I do mostly server-based work using VS, BizTalk, SQL Server, and others like Commerce Server. I could install XP on a separate partition, but Parallels seems to do really well since Mac OS X is not Windows :) and the MacBook provides hardware support for virtualization. I am thinking of going with a MacBook Pro because it’s not a Dell, it is fast, and looks great. I am still undecided. I am on the fence and don’t mind falling on the MacBook side - but I’d like to know of your experience or if you know of someone’s experience with it. Erik

                Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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                Paul Watson
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                Wow. You say something good about an Apple product on CP and not one reply disses it. How times have changed. I have a MBP. Great laptop. Sadly, I had one of the earlier ones and the HD died within a year. The newer ones apparently use much better HDs. To be brutally honest; consider a similarly specced Lenovo. They aren't as pretty but they are built well. Parallels is good but VMWare Fusion is better IMO. I'd still dual-boot if you are running stuff like BizTalk, Commerce Server and SQL Server though.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                  My Dell notebook is dying - one year after I bought it, the screen suddenly became blurry and bad sectors are starting to show up on the hard drive. I’m disappointed since I can usually keep a laptop for about two years, but this is my first Dell - so lesson learned. I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work. I do mostly server-based work using VS, BizTalk, SQL Server, and others like Commerce Server. I could install XP on a separate partition, but Parallels seems to do really well since Mac OS X is not Windows :) and the MacBook provides hardware support for virtualization. I am thinking of going with a MacBook Pro because it’s not a Dell, it is fast, and looks great. I am still undecided. I am on the fence and don’t mind falling on the MacBook side - but I’d like to know of your experience or if you know of someone’s experience with it. Erik

                  Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                  Good choice. Just a few things: 1. I ordered my Mac at http://www.macmall.com[^]. No taxes in my area + the prices were good. 2. I ordered RAM at http://www.macsales.com[^]. Upgraded to the full extent possible. 3. VMWare is better than Parallels. Not sure about the latest Parallels though which claims to provided Vista Aero. I bought Mac initially for web development (server on windows and photoshop and other tools on Mac). But I ended up eventually learning Cocoa and I use it mostly for Mac/iPhone development:)

                  This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash. MIM on TIOBE

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Wow. You say something good about an Apple product on CP and not one reply disses it. How times have changed. I have a MBP. Great laptop. Sadly, I had one of the earlier ones and the HD died within a year. The newer ones apparently use much better HDs. To be brutally honest; consider a similarly specced Lenovo. They aren't as pretty but they are built well. Parallels is good but VMWare Fusion is better IMO. I'd still dual-boot if you are running stuff like BizTalk, Commerce Server and SQL Server though.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                    Erik Westermann
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                    Thanks Paul - indeed, times are changing :) I'll look into both.

                    Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Erik Westermann wrote:

                      They are still overpriced

                      Disagree. If you only count CPU cycles and HD space then sure, you can get Dell knock-offs from China for less than a Big Mac burger. But if you count such things as packaging, fit and finish then they aren't over-priced. More to computers than feature counts IMO.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                      Erik Westermann
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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      for less than a Big Mac burger

                      :laugh:

                      Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Wow. You say something good about an Apple product on CP and not one reply disses it. How times have changed. I have a MBP. Great laptop. Sadly, I had one of the earlier ones and the HD died within a year. The newer ones apparently use much better HDs. To be brutally honest; consider a similarly specced Lenovo. They aren't as pretty but they are built well. Parallels is good but VMWare Fusion is better IMO. I'd still dual-boot if you are running stuff like BizTalk, Commerce Server and SQL Server though.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        I'd claim we matured past clubbing baby seals, but the continued existence of the soapbox is a powerful counter argument.

                        You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon

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                          I'd claim we matured past clubbing baby seals, but the continued existence of the soapbox is a powerful counter argument.

                          You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon

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                          Paul Watson
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                          And VB bashing...

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

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                          • D Dan Neely

                            I'd claim we matured past clubbing baby seals, but the continued existence of the soapbox is a powerful counter argument.

                            You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon

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                            Lost User
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                            dan neely wrote:

                            baby seals

                            <homer_drool> Mmmm.... baby seal </homer_drool>

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                            • E Erik Westermann

                              My Dell notebook is dying - one year after I bought it, the screen suddenly became blurry and bad sectors are starting to show up on the hard drive. I’m disappointed since I can usually keep a laptop for about two years, but this is my first Dell - so lesson learned. I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work. I do mostly server-based work using VS, BizTalk, SQL Server, and others like Commerce Server. I could install XP on a separate partition, but Parallels seems to do really well since Mac OS X is not Windows :) and the MacBook provides hardware support for virtualization. I am thinking of going with a MacBook Pro because it’s not a Dell, it is fast, and looks great. I am still undecided. I am on the fence and don’t mind falling on the MacBook side - but I’d like to know of your experience or if you know of someone’s experience with it. Erik

                              Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Erik Westermann wrote:

                              I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work.

                              Wouldn't it be cheaper (and more performant) to get a non-Dell laptop, but not necessarily a MacBook? I have nothing against the MacBook, but I must confess I've also never had any problems with Dell hardware. I've been using them (both desktops and laptops) for close to 10 years now at both home and work. Maybe I'm in the minority? /ravi

                              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                              • E Erik Westermann

                                My Dell notebook is dying - one year after I bought it, the screen suddenly became blurry and bad sectors are starting to show up on the hard drive. I’m disappointed since I can usually keep a laptop for about two years, but this is my first Dell - so lesson learned. I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work. I do mostly server-based work using VS, BizTalk, SQL Server, and others like Commerce Server. I could install XP on a separate partition, but Parallels seems to do really well since Mac OS X is not Windows :) and the MacBook provides hardware support for virtualization. I am thinking of going with a MacBook Pro because it’s not a Dell, it is fast, and looks great. I am still undecided. I am on the fence and don’t mind falling on the MacBook side - but I’d like to know of your experience or if you know of someone’s experience with it. Erik

                                Erik Westermann - wWorkflow.net

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                                Single Step Debugger
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                                Consider also the Toshiba notebooks. A little more expensive but extremely reliable.

                                The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word.

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                                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                  Erik Westermann wrote:

                                  I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work.

                                  Wouldn't it be cheaper (and more performant) to get a non-Dell laptop, but not necessarily a MacBook? I have nothing against the MacBook, but I must confess I've also never had any problems with Dell hardware. I've been using them (both desktops and laptops) for close to 10 years now at both home and work. Maybe I'm in the minority? /ravi

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                                  jchigg2000
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                                  I haven't had any problems with Dell either. I've had 2 XPS desktops and 2 XPS Laptops that have been and still are fine. Of course, I have a 12" iBook from 2003 that has worked flawlessly since I got it without so much as even one hard drive format. It also still has greater battery life than any of my newer machines that both have the 9 cell battery upgrade. The iBook has been a great machine for when I'm traveling and only need/want internet access or the ability to watch some movies. It's gotten old enough that I don't mind it getting roughed up a bit!

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                                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                    Erik Westermann wrote:

                                    I am thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and using Parallels with it to do my work.

                                    Wouldn't it be cheaper (and more performant) to get a non-Dell laptop, but not necessarily a MacBook? I have nothing against the MacBook, but I must confess I've also never had any problems with Dell hardware. I've been using them (both desktops and laptops) for close to 10 years now at both home and work. Maybe I'm in the minority? /ravi

                                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                    Rocky Moore
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                                    Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                    Maybe I'm in the minority?

                                    Doubt it.. There are always good running old Dells on ebay all the time. I have two older laptops and they are still ticking right along. I would not have an Apple for one reason, I do not like the company and its culture/sub-culture and since I would not have anything to do with their modified Unix OS, it is just an overpriced (along with accessories) replacement of a Intel PC. -- Long live the right mouse button and scroll wheel! :)

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                      Maybe I'm in the minority?

                                      Doubt it.. There are always good running old Dells on ebay all the time. I have two older laptops and they are still ticking right along. I would not have an Apple for one reason, I do not like the company and its culture/sub-culture and since I would not have anything to do with their modified Unix OS, it is just an overpriced (along with accessories) replacement of a Intel PC. -- Long live the right mouse button and scroll wheel! :)

                                      Rocky <>< Blog Post: Sites and Domains for sale! Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Live Writer Plug-ins! Photo Stuff Blog Post: CHDK Motion Detection and other stuff - Quick notes!

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                                      Rocky Moore wrote:

                                      I would not have an Apple for one reason, I do not like the company and its culture/sub-culture

                                      How do you feel about Microsoft and Intel?

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                                        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                        Maybe I'm in the minority?

                                        Doubt it.. There are always good running old Dells on ebay all the time. I have two older laptops and they are still ticking right along. I would not have an Apple for one reason, I do not like the company and its culture/sub-culture and since I would not have anything to do with their modified Unix OS, it is just an overpriced (along with accessories) replacement of a Intel PC. -- Long live the right mouse button and scroll wheel! :)

                                        Rocky <>< Blog Post: Sites and Domains for sale! Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Live Writer Plug-ins! Photo Stuff Blog Post: CHDK Motion Detection and other stuff - Quick notes!

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                                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                                        Rocky Moore wrote:

                                        Doubt it..

                                        I agree. Still, I feel bad for Erik. I think I know how he feels. My 15 month old Sharp Aquos just died on me and I've sworn never to buy another Sharp TV. I'm sure they're a good company, but I don't want to risk getting burned again. (I ended up buying a Samsung and love it.). /ravi

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                                        • G Graham Bradshaw

                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          ended up dual-booting with Vista instead.

                                          What do you do about the lack of a "right-click" button? Don't Mac laptops only have one button?

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                                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                          Just get a regular mouse and use it with the Mac. It handles right clicks, scroll wheel, etc.

                                          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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