What to make of the vast void of silence
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I read a lot of articles, but typically never comment or vote. The articles help me learn about different code syntaxes. Go ahead and submit your articles, they are of value to me and others even if we don't comment. Ignore the uni-voters, they are just jealous.
"Pigs don't know pigs stink."
Well I would humbly ask that you (or anyone else) *do* comment. What struck you as useful? What didn't? Why did it help? Etc. Also vote - if no one (or only a few) vote, then that gives the uni-voter idiots far more "power" than they really deserve.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Actually, I have one article I want to write on an amazing, non-existent technology that could revolutionize game programming
I'd read that. I'm into the gaming thing but I'm not an artist so I'll stick with apps.
"Pigs don't know pigs stink."
justfunnin wrote:
I'd read that. I'm into the gaming thing but I'm not an artist so I'll stick with apps.
As they used to say when I was going through school, if you are an artist trying to get into gaming, take a couple of programming courses; if you are a programmer trying to get into gamng, take a couple of art courses. At least the perspective can help you interface to a counterpart in a team and give you a better chance. I am one of the few artist/programmers so I got the 50/50 split, programming because I had to give up art for a career. :-D Though personally anymore, I would recommend a creativity boot camp no matter what end of the spectrum you come from. I loved that class at the Game Developer's Conference and highly recommend it to anyone in or outside of the GDC offerings since the guy who does it does boot camps for other groups too.
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
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My work environment involves a great deal of legacy code and applications (legacy meaning: VB6, classic ASP and mainframe applications); we are slowly moving to .NET applications, but, that is on as as-needed basis. So, articles I read will be those that can help me with what I am currently working on. Where I am more likely to find help is in searching the message bases. Yesterday, I was having a problem with classic ASP and global.asa files; a message from 2002 gave me a path to follow that helped resolve the issue. And, to be perfectly honest, I get tired of hearing that unless something is done in C++ or C#, it's garbage... So, I get what I can and leave. I have used articles to assist me, but they have been few and far between. Tim
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
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I think the main problem is the learning curve. I have looked at VCF couple of times before but each time I was unable to put enough effort to learn how to use it. When I learned MFC there were no good alternatives so I *had* to go through the learning curve. Also there was this class hierarchy diagram which helped a lot, maybe something similar for VCF will help getting into it. But the killer feature, atleast for me, was auto generated code. What it did was allowed me to focus more on the functionality rather than GUI. Sure I made lots of stupid mistakes because I didn't understood the basics but it basically kept me using it. Another important thing is support. There are loads of books on MFC as well as forums where I can seek help when I am stuck. Finally, this is a matter of taste, but I hate doxygen style documentation. It is kind of equlivalent of going through source code and reading comments. I like MSDN style - a TreeView on the left and one function or a concept on the right (with links to other relevant sections). This way I have limited information at a time and can focus on what I want to read. I think psychologically very long pages sometimes makes simple things look complex. At least I get nervous every time I come across a library with everything dumped in a single html file. I must say I am saying all this when I looked into VCF sometime back and things might be different now. In that case please ignore my comments. -Saurabh
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond?
"Latest and greatest" is an amusing phrase. Just this morning I was downloading the Enterprise Application Block (so I could learn from Microsoft's mistakes, I'm implementing a caching block) and there's all this stuff about "Unity". In other words, Microsoft has repackaged AOP and cross cutting, probably stealing in the process PostSharp[^] and rebranding it with the cutesy name "Unity". What BS. <blockquote class="FQ"><div class="FQA">Jim Crafton wrote:</div>What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering.</blockquote> Ah, well, there's a lot more reasons than feeding the uni-voters! Being able to publish is fantastic. I really couldn't care less about negative feedback at this point, and I definitely appreciate all the positive feedback and constructive criticism (much as I hate that phrase). Just hook the negative input of the op-amp to ground and let the positive input drive the gain. :) Marc
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
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I voted your articles 5 because I know VCF is good (worked with a guy who used it on his previous job - a research lab in South Carolina) but did not even read them properly (I read very few articles nowdays), so no comments from me.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond?
"Latest and greatest" is an amusing phrase. Just this morning I was downloading the Enterprise Application Block (so I could learn from Microsoft's mistakes, I'm implementing a caching block) and there's all this stuff about "Unity". In other words, Microsoft has repackaged AOP and cross cutting, probably stealing in the process PostSharp[^] and rebranding it with the cutesy name "Unity". What BS. <blockquote class="FQ"><div class="FQA">Jim Crafton wrote:</div>What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering.</blockquote> Ah, well, there's a lot more reasons than feeding the uni-voters! Being able to publish is fantastic. I really couldn't care less about negative feedback at this point, and I definitely appreciate all the positive feedback and constructive criticism (much as I hate that phrase). Just hook the negative input of the op-amp to ground and let the positive input drive the gain. :) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
I definitely appreciate all the positive feedback and constructive criticism
As do I. However there's *no* feedback. Nada, zip. And that's a bit frustrating.
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I think the main problem is the learning curve. I have looked at VCF couple of times before but each time I was unable to put enough effort to learn how to use it. When I learned MFC there were no good alternatives so I *had* to go through the learning curve. Also there was this class hierarchy diagram which helped a lot, maybe something similar for VCF will help getting into it. But the killer feature, atleast for me, was auto generated code. What it did was allowed me to focus more on the functionality rather than GUI. Sure I made lots of stupid mistakes because I didn't understood the basics but it basically kept me using it. Another important thing is support. There are loads of books on MFC as well as forums where I can seek help when I am stuck. Finally, this is a matter of taste, but I hate doxygen style documentation. It is kind of equlivalent of going through source code and reading comments. I like MSDN style - a TreeView on the left and one function or a concept on the right (with links to other relevant sections). This way I have limited information at a time and can focus on what I want to read. I think psychologically very long pages sometimes makes simple things look complex. At least I get nervous every time I come across a library with everything dumped in a single html file. I must say I am saying all this when I looked into VCF sometime back and things might be different now. In that case please ignore my comments. -Saurabh
Saurabh.Garg wrote:
But the killer feature, atleast for me, was auto generated code. What it did was allowed me to focus more on the functionality rather than GUI.
The reason this is so crucial to MFC is because of it's piss poor design. MFC utterly fails without it.
Saurabh.Garg wrote:
I think the main problem is the learning curve.
Are you aware that there are over 100 examples, ranging from a simple HelloWorld app to all sort of other apps, both Gui and command line?
Saurabh.Garg wrote:
At least I get nervous every time I come across a library with everything dumped in a single html file.
I would too. Which is why I don't dump the doxygen into one html file.
Saurabh.Garg wrote:
Another important thing is support. There are loads of books on MFC as well as forums where I can seek help when I am stuck.
You mean these forums[^]? Been around since 2003.
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I voted your articles 5 because I know VCF is good (worked with a guy who used it on his previous job - a research lab in South Carolina) but did not even read them properly (I read very few articles nowdays), so no comments from me.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
worked with a guy who used it on his previous job
Really? Wow, that's always interesting to hear about others using it, not something I actually find out very often. I wonder how it went, or if they still use it (or maybe I don't really want to know... :) ).
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond?
I don't care about VCF... Continue with your passion for VCF.. but quit worrying about achieving some kind of notoriety about this subject.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond?
I don't care about VCF... Continue with your passion for VCF.. but quit worrying about achieving some kind of notoriety about this subject.
This isn't about the VCF per se. It's about any kind of design idea. Many of the designs in the VCF can be applied to C# (or wherever). Many of the ideas in the VCF come from non-Microsoft sources that have a lot of interesting solutions to common problems. Borland's VCL, Apple's Cocoa, etc. It's about designing a solution to problem, and my concern is that no one seems to give a damn unless the solution comes from Microsoft. I find that curious.
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I have 4 or 5 really good topics sitting down because I just don't have the desire to deal with the criticism from people can't be bothered to even read my GD introduction which explains the purpose of the code. It really just isn't worth it unless you are writing a MS clone to explain something MS was too lazy to document on MSDN. Instead of an article I am going to author a book, I think. Then I don't have to read the criticism and I will be an accepted expert on the subject. There is just something about writing an article online that makes a first year without experience want to tirade against your approach, not because they don't understand but because they didn't take the time to understand. It just makes me want to swear. Actually, I have one article I want to write on an amazing, non-existent technology that could revolutionize game programming but I don't want to read the "What's the point from the GDI's" eh, end rant. BTW, I give you man points.
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deal with the criticism from people can't be bothered
dude, thats what life is all about... if you cant handle critisism then people will walk all up and down your ass. youve got to learn to handle it and realize that most of the idiots posting the bad critisism arent half the programmers you and i are. on the other hand some of the more regular CP posters provide you with constructive critisism which almost defenitly leads to personal growth. thats the very reason i write articles. i like to think of them as(and said it in so man words in my latest article) a personal reference thats in the public domain. if some one wants to break ou down about our work then BLAH to them.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I have one article I want to write on an amazing, non-existent technology that could revolutionize game programming
i too would read that
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Saurabh.Garg wrote:
But the killer feature, atleast for me, was auto generated code. What it did was allowed me to focus more on the functionality rather than GUI.
The reason this is so crucial to MFC is because of it's piss poor design. MFC utterly fails without it.
Saurabh.Garg wrote:
I think the main problem is the learning curve.
Are you aware that there are over 100 examples, ranging from a simple HelloWorld app to all sort of other apps, both Gui and command line?
Saurabh.Garg wrote:
At least I get nervous every time I come across a library with everything dumped in a single html file.
I would too. Which is why I don't dump the doxygen into one html file.
Saurabh.Garg wrote:
Another important thing is support. There are loads of books on MFC as well as forums where I can seek help when I am stuck.
You mean these forums[^]? Been around since 2003.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
The reason this is so crucial to MFC is because of it's piss poor design. MFC utterly fails without it.
I agree somewhat with it, I was just sharing my experience.
Jim Crafton wrote:
Are you aware that there are over 100 examples, ranging from a simple HelloWorld app to all sort of other apps, both Gui and command line?
Yes I am.
Jim Crafton wrote:
I would too. Which is why I don't dump the doxygen into one html file.
Actually in a way you do that. Each class is documented as a single HTML file. And each chapter of reference manual is pretty large.
Jim Crafton wrote:
You mean these forums[^]? Been around since 2003.
I am also aware of forums but there are too few people using them. I am just sharing my experience as someone who tried to use VCF but gave up. -Saurabh
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I recently submitted several new articles and what has surprised me a little is how little response I got. Well actually, pretty much none whatsoever would be more correct. I would have thought that some of the ideas being presented would have interested at least some of the people here, but apparently not. Am I missing something? Does no one have any interest in anything outside of the latest and greatest that comes out of Redmond? People bitch and moan all the time at what Microsoft puts out, but when someone else comes along with an alternative, it's met with silence. I think this is a bit sad, because it means that we are locked into not *only* the development languages that Microsoft chooses to offer, but that even the design of software is now completely driven by them, alternate approaches be damned :( Doubly depressing of course is that despite a fair number of views, the uni-votes shoots the article rating to hell because so few people vote. What was going to be a series of articles now has me asking myself why I'm even bothering. Deduct man-points as you see fit.
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Personally I wouldn't have come across your articles because I'm totally in the .net world at this point and if I want cross platform compatibility I can do it through MONO and Microsoft .net easier and easier as time goes by. And I won't vote on something I don't understand fully. Sometimes as painful as it is you have to ask yourself "Am I flogging a dead horse here?". Of course for many it's not the number of people that are interested, it's their own interest that drives them and it shouldn't matter how many others are interested. For others they are trying to do something that would be of benefit to a large number of others and if those others don't materialize then..well you know. I can't determine that one way or another, I know a lot of people here jump up and attack me about my liking .net because they have a firm belief in unmanaged code, those would be the people who should be the most interested in VCF I would think and there seem to be a fair number of them here. Perhaps they have no interest in cross platform work so your target market is an intersection of the set of unmanaged developers doing anything large and new who are also interested in cross platform development. To me that seems like a small number of people for this particular web site but I'm sure 40 will jump on here and refute me seconds after I hit Post Message. :)
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
deal with the criticism from people can't be bothered
dude, thats what life is all about... if you cant handle critisism then people will walk all up and down your ass. youve got to learn to handle it and realize that most of the idiots posting the bad critisism arent half the programmers you and i are. on the other hand some of the more regular CP posters provide you with constructive critisism which almost defenitly leads to personal growth. thats the very reason i write articles. i like to think of them as(and said it in so man words in my latest article) a personal reference thats in the public domain. if some one wants to break ou down about our work then BLAH to them.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I have one article I want to write on an amazing, non-existent technology that could revolutionize game programming
i too would read that
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
you.suck = (you.passion != Programming)I understand all of the reasons to post articles but when I weigh them all in it is difficult to be bothered given the pro's and con's. I may author another one in the future but for now I just keep a list, just in case.
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This isn't about the VCF per se. It's about any kind of design idea. Many of the designs in the VCF can be applied to C# (or wherever). Many of the ideas in the VCF come from non-Microsoft sources that have a lot of interesting solutions to common problems. Borland's VCL, Apple's Cocoa, etc. It's about designing a solution to problem, and my concern is that no one seems to give a damn unless the solution comes from Microsoft. I find that curious.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I find that curious.
On a Microsoft centric development board? Why? I'm actually amazed at the number of non microsoft centric people that post here.
"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
worked with a guy who used it on his previous job
Really? Wow, that's always interesting to hear about others using it, not something I actually find out very often. I wonder how it went, or if they still use it (or maybe I don't really want to know... :) ).
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I wonder how it went, or if they still use it (or maybe I don't really want to know... ).
Yes you do :) When I interviewed this guy (Dec 2006) I asked him about his current work and he mentioned they used VCF for the GUI stuff; they were (still are?) developing some system for simulating blood flow through vanes if I remember it correctly and the GUI part was used for the analysis of results. Of course, the mention of VCF rang a bell and I asked him how he liked it - his experience was very good; both with the framework itself and the support they got on the VCF forum.
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Personally I wouldn't have come across your articles because I'm totally in the .net world at this point and if I want cross platform compatibility I can do it through MONO and Microsoft .net easier and easier as time goes by. And I won't vote on something I don't understand fully. Sometimes as painful as it is you have to ask yourself "Am I flogging a dead horse here?". Of course for many it's not the number of people that are interested, it's their own interest that drives them and it shouldn't matter how many others are interested. For others they are trying to do something that would be of benefit to a large number of others and if those others don't materialize then..well you know. I can't determine that one way or another, I know a lot of people here jump up and attack me about my liking .net because they have a firm belief in unmanaged code, those would be the people who should be the most interested in VCF I would think and there seem to be a fair number of them here. Perhaps they have no interest in cross platform work so your target market is an intersection of the set of unmanaged developers doing anything large and new who are also interested in cross platform development. To me that seems like a small number of people for this particular web site but I'm sure 40 will jump on here and refute me seconds after I hit Post Message. :)
"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot
Actually more and more I don't see the VCF as so much cross platform, but simply a much easier way to program under windows. It's infinitely easier to program than either WTL or MFC, and has useful features that neither support. That said I'm pretty much at the point of just giving up in terms of a project. I would use it myself for anything I wrote at this point, but beyond that I've pretty much given up that anyone else will find anything useful about it.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I find that curious.
On a Microsoft centric development board? Why? I'm actually amazed at the number of non microsoft centric people that post here.
"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot
John C wrote:
I'm actually amazed at the number of non microsoft centric people that post here.
Huh... Do you find the number amazingly large, or amazingly small?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I find that curious.
On a Microsoft centric development board? Why? I'm actually amazed at the number of non microsoft centric people that post here.
"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot
I find it curious that just about no one asks why are they using the technology they are programming in. Is there a better way? If so, why am I not using it? Are there other ideas out there that I can use within my current development environment/tools? I understand that a majority of people won't ask these questions. But it appears that *no one* does. And that's what strikes me as curious and sad.
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