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  • K keyboard warrior

    Brady Kelly wrote:

    My last employer that had a gun free policy

    good thing these work against people that are going to shoot up the building....

    ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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    Brady Kelly
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    Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords. It was a home loan division of a bank.

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      Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords. It was a home loan division of a bank.

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      keyboard warrior
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      Brady Kelly wrote:

      Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords.

      nah...this just takes a clever call to the helpdesk generally :-D

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        Companies often hire police officers instead of civilian security to give the illusion of authority to the actions. However, a police officer can only force you to a search under two conditions: 1) You are subject to arrest and they are searching to remove weapons for their safety 2) A Search Warrant Just decline the search and when your boss asks why say it is an unreasonable violation of your privacy. The presumption should be innocence and not guilt. Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Several of us have a CHL (Concealed Handgun License), and we are almost always packing heat of some kind. Now that we can't bring it into the office, we just leave our firearms in our cars. Did I mention we're in Texas? Here, the term "gun control" is defined as "hitting what you're shooting at".

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Paul Conrad
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          in Texas... Here, the term "gun control" is defined as "hitting what you're shooting at".

          Yes. That is so true!

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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            Companies often hire police officers instead of civilian security to give the illusion of authority to the actions. However, a police officer can only force you to a search under two conditions: 1) You are subject to arrest and they are searching to remove weapons for their safety 2) A Search Warrant Just decline the search and when your boss asks why say it is an unreasonable violation of your privacy. The presumption should be innocence and not guilt. Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

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            El Corazon
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            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

            now THAT is the understatement of the year! :-D

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              NRA belt buckle

              Must get one, myself :-D

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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              • K keyboard warrior

                Brady Kelly wrote:

                Or commit an armed robbery of server passwords.

                nah...this just takes a clever call to the helpdesk generally :-D

                ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                Brady Kelly
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                No, they were very tight. In the rare occasions we were allowed to make production changes, they would log on for us and watch while we made the changes, then log off again.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Chris Meech
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                  Tomorrow, show up to work wearing only your NRA belt and buckle and explain that you are carrying a concealed weapon. Then see whether they want to search you. :)

                  Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    Companies often hire police officers instead of civilian security to give the illusion of authority to the actions. However, a police officer can only force you to a search under two conditions: 1) You are subject to arrest and they are searching to remove weapons for their safety 2) A Search Warrant Just decline the search and when your boss asks why say it is an unreasonable violation of your privacy. The presumption should be innocence and not guilt. Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

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                    kinar
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                    However, almost every company has a "We reserve the right to terminate you for any reason..." mumbo jumbo in thier company handbook. Refusing to obey company policy is certainly a valid reason to fire you. Unless of course, you live in one of those states where it is almost impossible to fire anyone for any reason.

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                    • W Whytespot

                      I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.

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                      What's ridiculous about exercising your rights? Oh, wait... You're in Canada. You have no rights.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • E El Corazon

                        Never had the ability. Government facilities have long since banned firearms of any kind. I got in trouble for my lock-back knife at one point. Nothing longer than 4" blade - mine was a mear 5.5" (good thing they never saw the last one my grandfather made)... and that was pre-9-11, now they'd probably confiscate toe nail clippers. There are no concealed permits for the martial arts weapons I am trained in, amazing you can get a concealed carry permit for a gun, but not for a sai, escrima, or even tonfun, but especially not throwing blades, throwing spikes, stars and the like -- all of those are illegal to carry most places. You can carry to and from the dojo, and your home, but not even keep in your car in most places. :)

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                        El Corazon wrote:

                        my lock-back knife

                        Pre-911: Airport security would simply measure my knife, see that the blade is only 3" long, and hand it back. Post-911: Airport security said I couldn't carry my 1.5" non-locking knife on board... after I was airborne I realized that I had forgotten that the 3" lock-back was still in my pocket!

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          What's ridiculous about exercising your rights? Oh, wait... You're in Canada. You have no rights.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Bassam Saoud
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                          Amazing, did you ever had to use it?

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                            Amazing, did you ever had to use it?

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                            Not yet, and I hope I never have to. However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Maybe that's just preparation for a new round of downsizing :big evil grin: :cool:

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                              • C Chris Meech

                                Tomorrow, show up to work wearing only your NRA belt and buckle and explain that you are carrying a concealed weapon. Then see whether they want to search you. :)

                                Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                                Gary Wheeler
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                                Now there's an ugly picture: The Outlaw Programmer being subjected to a body cavity search.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                  No worry. Real men can fight with bare hands.

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    What's ridiculous about exercising your rights? Oh, wait... You're in Canada. You have no rights.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Whytespot
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                                    Exercising your rights is not ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.

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                                      Not yet, and I hope I never have to. However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      Bassam Saoud
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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.

                                      what about using the gun when you don't need to use it. dunno man, Being from Lebanon, I have seen lots of people with guns, 100% of the time they are idiots with a brain of a peanut. So I usually associate civilians with guns to idiots... not that I mean you are in any way.

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                                      • W Whytespot

                                        Exercising your rights is not ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.

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                                        CaptainSeeSarp
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                                        Society doesn't matter, people are dangerous no matter where you live. Its like life insurance.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Unnecessary here.

                                          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                          Oakman
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                                          Trollslayer wrote:

                                          Unnecessary here.

                                          Official figures released on Thursday revealed there were more than 22,000 serious offences in England and Wales involving knives in 2007-8 Depends on your definition of unnecessary, I suppose.

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