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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    Chris Meech
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    Tomorrow, show up to work wearing only your NRA belt and buckle and explain that you are carrying a concealed weapon. Then see whether they want to search you. :)

    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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      Companies often hire police officers instead of civilian security to give the illusion of authority to the actions. However, a police officer can only force you to a search under two conditions: 1) You are subject to arrest and they are searching to remove weapons for their safety 2) A Search Warrant Just decline the search and when your boss asks why say it is an unreasonable violation of your privacy. The presumption should be innocence and not guilt. Of course if you work in a Government building you may have more difficulty.

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      However, almost every company has a "We reserve the right to terminate you for any reason..." mumbo jumbo in thier company handbook. Refusing to obey company policy is certainly a valid reason to fire you. Unless of course, you live in one of those states where it is almost impossible to fire anyone for any reason.

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        I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.

        modified on Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:27 PM

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        What's ridiculous about exercising your rights? Oh, wait... You're in Canada. You have no rights.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Never had the ability. Government facilities have long since banned firearms of any kind. I got in trouble for my lock-back knife at one point. Nothing longer than 4" blade - mine was a mear 5.5" (good thing they never saw the last one my grandfather made)... and that was pre-9-11, now they'd probably confiscate toe nail clippers. There are no concealed permits for the martial arts weapons I am trained in, amazing you can get a concealed carry permit for a gun, but not for a sai, escrima, or even tonfun, but especially not throwing blades, throwing spikes, stars and the like -- all of those are illegal to carry most places. You can carry to and from the dojo, and your home, but not even keep in your car in most places. :)

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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          El Corazon wrote:

          my lock-back knife

          Pre-911: Airport security would simply measure my knife, see that the blade is only 3" long, and hand it back. Post-911: Airport security said I couldn't carry my 1.5" non-locking knife on board... after I was airborne I realized that I had forgotten that the 3" lock-back was still in my pocket!

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            What's ridiculous about exercising your rights? Oh, wait... You're in Canada. You have no rights.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Bassam Saoud
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            Amazing, did you ever had to use it?

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              Amazing, did you ever had to use it?

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              realJSOP
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              Not yet, and I hope I never have to. However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Maybe that's just preparation for a new round of downsizing :big evil grin: :cool:

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                  Tomorrow, show up to work wearing only your NRA belt and buckle and explain that you are carrying a concealed weapon. Then see whether they want to search you. :)

                  Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  Now there's an ugly picture: The Outlaw Programmer being subjected to a body cavity search.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    No worry. Real men can fight with bare hands.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      What's ridiculous about exercising your rights? Oh, wait... You're in Canada. You have no rights.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      Whytespot
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                      Exercising your rights is not ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Not yet, and I hope I never have to. However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Bassam Saoud
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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.

                        what about using the gun when you don't need to use it. dunno man, Being from Lebanon, I have seen lots of people with guns, 100% of the time they are idiots with a brain of a peanut. So I usually associate civilians with guns to idiots... not that I mean you are in any way.

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                        • W Whytespot

                          Exercising your rights is not ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.

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                          CaptainSeeSarp
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                          Society doesn't matter, people are dangerous no matter where you live. Its like life insurance.

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                            Unnecessary here.

                            Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                            Oakman
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                            Trollslayer wrote:

                            Unnecessary here.

                            Official figures released on Thursday revealed there were more than 22,000 serious offences in England and Wales involving knives in 2007-8 Depends on your definition of unnecessary, I suppose.

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.

                              what about using the gun when you don't need to use it. dunno man, Being from Lebanon, I have seen lots of people with guns, 100% of the time they are idiots with a brain of a peanut. So I usually associate civilians with guns to idiots... not that I mean you are in any way.

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                              Bassam Saoud wrote:

                              100% of the time they are idiots with a brain of a peanut. So I usually associate civilians with guns to idiots

                              i like how you include the word "civilian" implying that a state endorsed gun carrier is somehow more intelligent....

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                                El Corazon wrote:

                                my lock-back knife

                                Pre-911: Airport security would simply measure my knife, see that the blade is only 3" long, and hand it back. Post-911: Airport security said I couldn't carry my 1.5" non-locking knife on board... after I was airborne I realized that I had forgotten that the 3" lock-back was still in my pocket!

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                                keyboard warrior
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                                i was on the plane digging for one of USB flash drives and found a lighter... it went through the bag scanner.

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                                  Now there's an ugly picture: The Outlaw Programmer being subjected to a body cavity search.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  El Corazon
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                                  ow my brain!!!!!!!! :omg: :omg:

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                  • W Whytespot

                                    Exercising your rights is not ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.

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                                    Chad W wrote:

                                    What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.

                                    well i am still waiting to reach nirvana

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                                      Chad W wrote:

                                      I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.

                                      i work on a campus. this topic comes up a lot. it would sure be nice to be able to defend myself from the insane guy packing heat on campus.

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                                      Christopher Duncan
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                                      Carring a weapon on a college campus is a felony. The best defense in the world is to know where the trouble is, and be someplace else.

                                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Christopher Duncan
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                                        As I recall, the Texas chapter of the NRA uses three red, concentric circles for their belt buckle logo, as a visual aid for those who wish to identify themselves as a primary target. :-D

                                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

                                        modified on Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:39 PM

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          JudyL_MD
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                                          We've got the interesting situation here in Florida that the state legislature has just passed a law stating that it is legal to have a loaded gun in your car while at work. Disney, claiming they are exempt from this law (which DOES have provisions included that allow employers to be exempt), has just fired an employee who has a valid concealed weapons permit for refusing to allow his car to be searched after stating publicly that he was going to bring a gun in his car to his employee parking. [^] Judy

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