No Guns For You!
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Chad W wrote:
I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.
i work on a campus. this topic comes up a lot. it would sure be nice to be able to defend myself from the insane guy packing heat on campus.
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Carring a weapon on a college campus is a felony. The best defense in the world is to know where the trouble is, and be someplace else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001As I recall, the Texas chapter of the NRA uses three red, concentric circles for their belt buckle logo, as a visual aid for those who wish to identify themselves as a primary target. :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
modified on Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:39 PM
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On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001We've got the interesting situation here in Florida that the state legislature has just passed a law stating that it is legal to have a loaded gun in your car while at work. Disney, claiming they are exempt from this law (which DOES have provisions included that allow employers to be exempt), has just fired an employee who has a valid concealed weapons permit for refusing to allow his car to be searched after stating publicly that he was going to bring a gun in his car to his employee parking. [^] Judy
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Exercising your rights is not ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.
I totally agree with what you said...not sure why your post was voted 1 :confused:
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Exercising your rights is not ridiculous. What's ridiculous is the fact that you live in a society where you feel your wellbeing is so threatened that you need to carry a gun to work.
No, I don't feel compelled to carry a gun to work. I feel compelled to carry a gun, period.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Carring a weapon on a college campus is a felony. The best defense in the world is to know where the trouble is, and be someplace else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Carring a weapon on a college campus is a felony.
that is not true.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
we just leave our firearms in our cars.
Isn't that a bit risky? My last employer that had a gun free policy had a check-in gun safe downstairs.
Lots of people here have rifles in their pickups here. They keep them during hunting season in case they see something. I worked at a place that had a no firearms policy. Someone went hunting over the weekend and left the gun in the truck. He almost got fired.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
However, it is ill-advised to think I wouldn't use it simply because I don't *want* to use it.
what about using the gun when you don't need to use it. dunno man, Being from Lebanon, I have seen lots of people with guns, 100% of the time they are idiots with a brain of a peanut. So I usually associate civilians with guns to idiots... not that I mean you are in any way.
Texas did not have the concealed weapon allowance for some time. Then in the 1980's a guy shot up a fast food restaurant. A woman, whose parents were shot, had left her gun in her car because of no concealment. She argued in front of Texas government that had she had a concealed weapon, she could have taken the gunman down. It's assurance against the idiots.
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Lots of people here have rifles in their pickups here. They keep them during hunting season in case they see something. I worked at a place that had a no firearms policy. Someone went hunting over the weekend and left the gun in the truck. He almost got fired.
In my country, you're almost considered a criminal for just having a gun anywhere, but that's because the primary use of a gun is not self defence or hunting, but crime. It's an offence to own a gun and allow it to be stolen e.g. out of your car.
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Lots of people here have rifles in their pickups here. They keep them during hunting season in case they see something. I worked at a place that had a no firearms policy. Someone went hunting over the weekend and left the gun in the truck. He almost got fired.
It would be so nice to see that here, but I won't ever; I'd have to emmigrate. :((
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In my country, you're almost considered a criminal for just having a gun anywhere, but that's because the primary use of a gun is not self defence or hunting, but crime. It's an offence to own a gun and allow it to be stolen e.g. out of your car.
Brady Kelly wrote:
It's an offence to own a gun
meh. i was under the impression most people in Africa used machetes.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
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Carring a weapon on a college campus is a felony. The best defense in the world is to know where the trouble is, and be someplace else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Not in Utah. They tried repeatedly only to have the legislature explicitly close every potential loophole the schools tried to find. :cool:
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Brady Kelly wrote:
It's an offence to own a gun
meh. i was under the impression most people in Africa used machetes.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
Yes, but only for 'garden work', mwahahahaaa.
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Yes, but only for 'garden work', mwahahahaaa.
hahaha trimming the hedges etc ;P
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Texas did not have the concealed weapon allowance for some time. Then in the 1980's a guy shot up a fast food restaurant. A woman, whose parents were shot, had left her gun in her car because of no concealment. She argued in front of Texas government that had she had a concealed weapon, she could have taken the gunman down. It's assurance against the idiots.
leckey wrote:
It's assurance against the idiots
I guess the debate is: would shooting down the gunman (at some point) would have saved her parents.
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leckey wrote:
It's assurance against the idiots
I guess the debate is: would shooting down the gunman (at some point) would have saved her parents.
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Wow... My employer has had that policy in place for a few years now, but i've never been searched entering the building... :~ ...Then again, i've never visited the Waco plant.
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'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
Shog9 wrote:
i've never visited the Waco plant.
If they want to search you in Waco, they first have the FBI burn the plant down around you, then search the ashes.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous - the signs, or the fact that people actually bring guns to work.
modified on Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:27 PM
Chad W wrote:
I can’t decide what’s more ridiculous...
a government that is happy to investigate violent crime but prohibits citizens from defending themselves, or the people who permit this to be done to them. There are crazies in any society, and they tend to come out of the woodwork during economic hard times. No law will prevent them from being armed, no amount of police or guard "protection" will save their victims. Only an armed, free citizen has a chance to survive and to, perhaps, save several others in the process. An employer that limits employees this way probably means well, but is sadly misguided.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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On Monday, they posted signs at most of the entry/exit points to the office declaring that we can't carry weapons on company property. This morning, two police officers were posted at the elevator, and they searched everybody for weapons. I got here before the cops, so they haven't searched me yet - grin. My NRA belt buckle may give me away...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Somehow, I always knew you were carrying ;) On a more serious note: Do you think that violation of a company policy will get you anywhere? I'd suggest you oppose (and fight) the policy with complaints, not by ignoring it. That will put you in a morally superior position: "Look, I am respecting the policy, but I think I should not have to..." In Germany, it is hard enough to get a gun-ownership permission, even harder to be allowed to carry, and nearly impossible (except for government officials) to carry concealed. Which isn't a bad thing, as far as I am concerned, but shooting is a lot of fun anyway, especially with the big guns. I've had the pleasure of visiting a friend who owns a wide array of guns, and been trying some in on his club's range. Recoil's a bitch ;)
Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton
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Lots of people here have rifles in their pickups here. They keep them during hunting season in case they see something. I worked at a place that had a no firearms policy. Someone went hunting over the weekend and left the gun in the truck. He almost got fired.
leckey wrote:
I worked at a place that had a no firearms policy.
That just staggers me....that they'd actually need to make it a RULE that you don't bring a GUN to work?!!?!?!?!
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
