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  • S Stan Shannon

    Christian Graus wrote:

    I am saying they had no plan for global domination.

    First, global domination was the central point of communism from its very inception. Second, the Soviet Union was the heir apparent of European imperialism. The notion that they had 'no plan' for global domination is too absurd to even debate. It would have been an historic inevitability, and only a deluded, gullible, poorly read fool would contend otherwise.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    Christian Graus
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    I guess you're right. No point in arguing with morons.

    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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      Well, not really. Judgement day is coming and we will all answer individually for everything we've done. As far as the 'I told you so' that's for the ones that don't believe it's coming.

      Beauty is only a light switch away.

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      Christian Graus
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      What does that have to do with manifest destiny ?

      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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      • C Christian Graus

        I guess you're right. No point in arguing with morons.

        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        Stan Shannon
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        You really do need to read someone besides Chomsky.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        • O Oakman

          Yep, we're definitely responsible for East Timor

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          Christian Graus
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          That's called a weak man argument. I said 'most' and you assume I said 'all', choose one example that disproves the statement I did not make, and assume I have been shot down in flames. Only people with nothing to back themselves up, resort to such tactics.

          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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          • O Oakman

            Christian Graus wrote:

            The US did at least as much as the USSR to bring the world to the brink of nuclear war.

            Why, I wonder, when the U.S. was the only nation with nuclear weapons, didn't the Pentagon just charge right in and bomb the shit out of the USSR? If you think the Russians wouldn't have taken advantage of that kind of technological superiority, I suggest you check your impressions with eastern Europeans.

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            Stan Shannon
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            Oakman wrote:

            Why, I wonder, when the U.S. was the only nation with nuclear weapons, didn't the Pentagon just charge right in and bomb the sh*t out of the USSR? If you think the Russians wouldn't have taken advantage of that kind of technological superiority, I suggest you check your impressions with eastern Europeans.

            Obviously, the military industrial complex would have been opposed to such an easy victory... :rolleyes:

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            • C Christian Graus

              What does that have to do with manifest destiny ?

              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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              Dirk Higbee
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              absolutely nothing

              Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                absolutely nothing

                Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                Christian Graus
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                OK, so you were not talking about manifest destiny at all ?

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  You really do need to read someone besides Chomsky.

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  _Damian S_
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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Chomsky

                  Anna Chlumsky? She was great in My Girl... hehe...

                  -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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                  • R Rob Graham

                    Keep this up and NZ will be next.

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                    _Damian S_
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                    Can it be?

                    -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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                    • D Dirk Higbee

                      No, because they're pointless, time, life and money wasting agenda's brought on by war monger's like daddy and junior Bush.

                      Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                      Dirk Higbee wrote:

                      because they're pointless, time, life and money wasting agenda's brought on by war monger's like daddy and junior Bush.

                      No, they are an essential, effective and unavoidable reality in the modern world.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        OK, so you were not talking about manifest destiny at all ?

                        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                        Dirk Higbee
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                        No it was a smart a** reply to Stan's misguided comment about religious extremism.

                        Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                          No it was a smart a** reply to Stan's misguided comment about religious extremism.

                          Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          OK - imagine my confusion.

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                          • S Stan Shannon

                            You really do need to read someone besides Chomsky.

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            I actually only own one book of his, only b/c it was a giveaway in a book club. I found him to be somewhat biased and one dimensional.

                            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                            • S Stan Shannon

                              Dirk Higbee wrote:

                              because they're pointless, time, life and money wasting agenda's brought on by war monger's like daddy and junior Bush.

                              No, they are an essential, effective and unavoidable reality in the modern world.

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Dirk Higbee
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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              essential

                              not even

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                              effective

                              yeah right, the Iraq war has been real effective in killing off our loved ones

                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              unavoidable reality

                              first of all, reality is a myth, and ideality is a dream so perhaps an unavoidable actuality due to the lower mentality of those that cannot see war solves nothing in the long run because 300 years from now no one will care.

                              Beauty is only a light switch away.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                OK - imagine my confusion.

                                Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                Dirk Higbee
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                                sorry about that

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  That's called a weak man argument. I said 'most' and you assume I said 'all', choose one example that disproves the statement I did not make, and assume I have been shot down in flames. Only people with nothing to back themselves up, resort to such tactics.

                                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                  Oakman
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                                  As usual, Christian, you start off by telling me what I think and what I am saying, then you, brilliantly refute my your arguments and end up with a cheap shot. If you were honest with yourself, you could come up with a long list of geopolitical hotspots that occurred having nothing to do the the US. But that's a pretty big if. If you were even more honest, you'd admit that if the U.S. hadn't tried - however unsuccessfully in some cases, to draw a line in the sand, the Sino-Soviet block of the fifties and sixties would have created a world that you wouldn't want to live in.

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    Why, I wonder, when the U.S. was the only nation with nuclear weapons, didn't the Pentagon just charge right in and bomb the sh*t out of the USSR? If you think the Russians wouldn't have taken advantage of that kind of technological superiority, I suggest you check your impressions with eastern Europeans.

                                    Obviously, the military industrial complex would have been opposed to such an easy victory... :rolleyes:

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Oakman
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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Obviously, the military industrial complex would have been opposed to such an easy victory

                                    That must have been it. I'm surprised Christian didn't explain it to me.

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                                      Our fight against communism

                                      Was largely in your own minds and of your own invention.

                                      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Was largely in your own minds and of your own invention.

                                      Again, I urge you to check your fantasies with the people of eastern Europe.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        Can it be?

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                                        Rob Graham
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                                        Got any oil?

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          I actually only own one book of his, only b/c it was a giveaway in a book club. I found him to be somewhat biased and one dimensional.

                                          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                          Stan Shannon
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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          I found him to be somewhat biased and one dimensional.

                                          Understandable mistake then, eh? :laugh:

                                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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