VS2008 stability [modified]
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Yup. That's when times were really hard over here. If I'm not mistaken, pretty much all the states bordering to Canada, are infested with offspring of Scandinavian immigrants. Ja? ;) I remember visiting Seattle in -98, and damn, there were Norwegian stores everywhere! I even spoke Swedish with a store clerk (Swedes and Norwegians understand each other fairly easy).
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
I didn't realize there was a large presence out west, but I know Minnesota and northern Michigan had large populations. I find it kinda ironic that those people choose to settle in an area with a winter as harsh as the old country instead of taking the opportunity to move somewhere less bitter..
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Just cancel the build and restart it. At least, this works for me (in C++ projects). I find that the debugger hangs periodically (again in C++ projects), and in such a way to also hang Explorer. The only solution is to kill devenv.exe, which you have to do from the command line as Explorer is not available. Bye bye context, breakpoints, bookmarks, watched variables etc :( I would upgrade to VS 2008 but the Edit 'n Continue feature is broken - it works but does not report compiler errors. This is a show-stopper for me as I use Edit 'n Continue extensively.
Paul Sanders http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk
Oh, if only it were that easy :D When I say stuck, I mean kill the damn devenv.exe process stuck!
I'm largely language agnostic
After a while they all bug me :doh:
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Huh. I have quite the opposite experience. VS2005 would crash frequently, VS2008 seems quite stable. But then again, I'm only doing vanilla C# and C++ stuff. But while we're ranting, it so pisses me off how crappy the C++ side of things is. Here's my current peve: doing a "search all files" for a string simply returns "yes, this file contains the string". You actually have to search the file itself for all the occurances of the string. What BS. Marc
You probably have the display file names only checkbox checked
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I didn't realize there was a large presence out west, but I know Minnesota and northern Michigan had large populations. I find it kinda ironic that those people choose to settle in an area with a winter as harsh as the old country instead of taking the opportunity to move somewhere less bitter..
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
I suppose it's all about what you're used to. A lot of immigrants were farmers, and I suppose they played it safe. All they had to do was to relocate - they didn't have to relearn everything that comes with a totally different climate. Personally, I would've immigrated to Florida or something like that. :)
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I'm seeing VS 2008 crash at least once every few days. Not a huge crash rate, but I can't remember the last time VS 2005 crashed. Is it just me? :( [Edit: A repeatable crash! I just have to select some HTML in an ASP.NET page and move the selection range around and *poof*. Bug submitted to Microsoft]
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
modified on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:15 AM
It's not just you. I've had repeated crashes when trying to add icons to a menu strip in [Design] mode. The stupid program blows away everything I've done and usually I get obtuse (read meaningless) error messages and can no longer access the form I was just creating! :mad::mad::mad:
Expert (ex-spurt): ex = has-been; spurt = drip under pressure
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I'm seeing VS 2008 crash at least once every few days. Not a huge crash rate, but I can't remember the last time VS 2005 crashed. Is it just me? :( [Edit: A repeatable crash! I just have to select some HTML in an ASP.NET page and move the selection range around and *poof*. Bug submitted to Microsoft]
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
modified on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:15 AM
I've been developing on Vista with VS05 since Vista shipped and for me VS05 was anything but stable on Vista. It used to crash so often that it went beyond frustrating to infuriating to so commonplace I hardly noticed. Sometimes not just several times in a day but several times per hour. It happened so often I wrote a command script to clean out the process space in the event there were orphaned processes etc, and put a shortcut on the desktop. Having VS05 crash, then clicking that link and restarting got to be so common I hardly noticed, it was just part of the dev process, like syncing/merging. We switched to VS08 several weeks back, and I've not had anywhere near the problems. To be honest I can't recall if it has crashed, because having VS/VSS (or one of the tools) crash on Vista has been so commonplace that, like I said, I hardly notice. Personally I long for the days of XP and stable VS05, when I could lock my machine at night in the middle of a debug session, come in the morning and unlock the machine and as soon as it repainted hit F10 and be in the next line of code, just where I left off (unless some type of timing etc was involved of course.) I can't even leave my Vista machine booted, much less logged-in/locked/in the middle of a debug session. Half the time Vista stops recognizing the KVM sometime over the course of the night and becomes completely unresponsive, at which point I have to power-down right in the middle of everything. That's much more painful than having to shut down everything and power down/up. I've tried contacting MS and/or submitting bugs, but all they do is immediately start questioning everything I do and so on, round and round, basically blowing me off and treating me like I'm the bug instead of their products.
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I can't remember what I had for breakfast...
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I'm seeing VS 2008 crash at least once every few days. Not a huge crash rate, but I can't remember the last time VS 2005 crashed. Is it just me? :( [Edit: A repeatable crash! I just have to select some HTML in an ASP.NET page and move the selection range around and *poof*. Bug submitted to Microsoft]
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
modified on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:15 AM
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Huh. I have quite the opposite experience. VS2005 would crash frequently, VS2008 seems quite stable. But then again, I'm only doing vanilla C# and C++ stuff. But while we're ranting, it so pisses me off how crappy the C++ side of things is. Here's my current peve: doing a "search all files" for a string simply returns "yes, this file contains the string". You actually have to search the file itself for all the occurances of the string. What BS. Marc
I have the same experience. VS2005 Crashed at least once a day. vs2005 had a lot of problems with the winform designers, sometimes it just crashed, somtimes it gave a lot of designer errors. I still remember the days of vs2005 having to clean/rebuild, close vs2005 and rebuild before I could open a form designer. In VS 2008 I have no problems whith the designers in winforms. On the other hand, the designers for asp.net are so slow, it is better to use notepad if you want to edit your webpages. It should be fixed in sp1 of 2008, I hope it is true.
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Huh. I have quite the opposite experience. VS2005 would crash frequently, VS2008 seems quite stable. But then again, I'm only doing vanilla C# and C++ stuff. But while we're ranting, it so pisses me off how crappy the C++ side of things is. Here's my current peve: doing a "search all files" for a string simply returns "yes, this file contains the string". You actually have to search the file itself for all the occurances of the string. What BS. Marc
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I'm seeing VS 2008 crash at least once every few days. Not a huge crash rate, but I can't remember the last time VS 2005 crashed. Is it just me? :( [Edit: A repeatable crash! I just have to select some HTML in an ASP.NET page and move the selection range around and *poof*. Bug submitted to Microsoft]
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
modified on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:15 AM
I am using 2005.. and just started using 2008. But in my case... 2005 crashes... generally during update of one project bound with source control. VS 2008 works fine on me...
Abhishek Sur
Web Developer
