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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    I see no need for a minimum.

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      a link[^] Gymnastics has been a joke for a very long time. China is just following in the footsteps of North Korea and Romania. another link[^]

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      Mike Mullikin wrote:

      Gymnastics has been a joke for a very long time.

      You mean, the olympics has been a joke for a very long time. Ever since they started allowing the athletes to wear clothes.

      Best wishes, Hans


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        I see no need for a minimum.

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        I can imagine that this may be bad if maybe the child is being forced to compete, rather then wanting to compete... Also, so much pressure at such a low age can be bad, very bad.... But then again if the child is talented, and wants to, then why not? :~ Hmmm...

        //Johannes

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          I don't think it should matter how old a competitor is. If they're good enough to take on the best in the world, give them a shot. I understand how gymnastics could be an exception as the increased flexibility you have when you're younger could be advantageous.

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            I can imagine that this may be bad if maybe the child is being forced to compete, rather then wanting to compete... Also, so much pressure at such a low age can be bad, very bad.... But then again if the child is talented, and wants to, then why not? :~ Hmmm...

            //Johannes

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            Actually while watching last night, they did mention that the Chinese gymnasts are hand picked at age 3.

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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              Gymnastics has been a joke for a very long time.

              You mean, the olympics has been a joke for a very long time. Ever since they started allowing the athletes to wear clothes.

              Best wishes, Hans


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              Yeah. 'Cause there's nothing funny about a naked javelin throw... :-\

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                -----
                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                so what.

                Yusuf

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                  I can imagine that this may be bad if maybe the child is being forced to compete, rather then wanting to compete... Also, so much pressure at such a low age can be bad, very bad.... But then again if the child is talented, and wants to, then why not? :~ Hmmm...

                  //Johannes

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                  because the exercise level needed to compete at the professional level will cause permanent injury and disability to the immature human body. It's not limited to any one sport, the same reason that little league limits the maximum number of pitches/day a player can throw based on age. I know there're others but I saw the LL one mentioned recently.

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                    so what.

                    Yusuf

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                    It's the principle of the thing. The rules are in place, and since the China won the gold, every effort should be made to ensure they did it legally. The US and Korea(?) teams should also be verified as being legal, but it's kinda obvious to anyone with any observational skills that the US team members are all 16 or older. They are massive in physical appearance to their sub-teen Chinese counterparts.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      It's the principle of the thing. The rules are in place, and since the China won the gold, every effort should be made to ensure they did it legally. The US and Korea(?) teams should also be verified as being legal, but it's kinda obvious to anyone with any observational skills that the US team members are all 16 or older. They are massive in physical appearance to their sub-teen Chinese counterparts.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      They are massive in physical appearance

                      And they still lose, how shameful. ;P

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          It's the principle of the thing. The rules are in place, and since the China won the gold, every effort should be made to ensure they did it legally. The US and Korea(?) teams should also be verified as being legal, but it's kinda obvious to anyone with any observational skills that the US team members are all 16 or older. They are massive in physical appearance to their sub-teen Chinese counterparts.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          It's the principle of the thing.

                          In principle I agree with you, but that is not what happens out there.

                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          The rules are in place,

                          what rules? nowadays rules only apply to the receiving end. I was listening to the radio about olympic doping. An official was saying they expect to catch between 20-30 athletes :omg: :wtf: So, the athletes and their respective country don't know about this? Sport has long lost its value and it turned to Sport = Business. I have no problem making business of sports, but first and foremost the spirit of sport needs to be there.

                          Yusuf

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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            They are massive in physical appearance

                            And they still lose, how shameful. ;P

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                            There is no shame in losing, but there is great shame in needing to cheat to win.

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              Anyone who saw them can conclude easily that these Girls were not 16. I am wondering why should is there an age restriction in the first place? I was not aware of it until I read your post.

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                                There is no shame in losing, but there is great shame in needing to cheat to win.

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                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                there is great shame in needing to cheat to win.

                                Sure, but are they going to feel that way? I doubt it.

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                                  Mark Salsbery
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                                  Sweeeet! :cool:

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    They might be under the official minimum age, but I think the real problem with Olympic gymnastics (maybe gymnastics, in general?) is that judging favors small, girl-like bodies and fast, jumpy movements. For decades, women's gymnastics has really been all about girl's gymnastics -- the gymnasts with larger, more muscular bodies don't do as well as the 16 - 20 year olds that look like they're 12 (the Belarussian Swan, Svetlana Boginskaya[^], is a notable exception). I think it's a major problem that harms the young gymnasts, since they must remain unnaturally small to keep winning, and it explains why China (or any other country) might try to skirt the rules. -Justin

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                                      John - if you looked as good as this[^] girl, nobody would ever downvote you.

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                                      If John looked as good as her he would be very confused.

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                                        It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        :rolleyes: Rumours nothing but rumours. Admit it, you guys got your asses handed to you. More importantly, how many man points are deducted for caring about female gymnasts either way? ;)


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                                          If John looked as good as her he would be very confused.

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                                          he would be very confused

                                          Confused, but very very popular.

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