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  • R Rob Graham

    There is no shame in losing, but there is great shame in needing to cheat to win.

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    Paul Conrad
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    Rob Graham wrote:

    there is great shame in needing to cheat to win.

    Sure, but are they going to feel that way? I doubt it.

    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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      Mark Salsbery
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      Sweeeet! :cool:

      Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        Justin Cooke
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        They might be under the official minimum age, but I think the real problem with Olympic gymnastics (maybe gymnastics, in general?) is that judging favors small, girl-like bodies and fast, jumpy movements. For decades, women's gymnastics has really been all about girl's gymnastics -- the gymnasts with larger, more muscular bodies don't do as well as the 16 - 20 year olds that look like they're 12 (the Belarussian Swan, Svetlana Boginskaya[^], is a notable exception). I think it's a major problem that harms the young gymnasts, since they must remain unnaturally small to keep winning, and it explains why China (or any other country) might try to skirt the rules. -Justin

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          If John looked as good as her he would be very confused.

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            It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            :rolleyes: Rumours nothing but rumours. Admit it, you guys got your asses handed to you. More importantly, how many man points are deducted for caring about female gymnasts either way? ;)


            "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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              If John looked as good as her he would be very confused.

              Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Trollslayer wrote:

              he would be very confused

              Confused, but very very popular.

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              • J jchigg2000

                Actually while watching last night, they did mention that the Chinese gymnasts are hand picked at age 3.

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                jchigg2000 wrote:

                Actually while watching last night, they did mention that the Chinese gymnasts are hand picked at age 3.

                It's the same way Jedi recruit.


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                • Y Yusuf

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  It's the principle of the thing.

                  In principle I agree with you, but that is not what happens out there.

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  The rules are in place,

                  what rules? nowadays rules only apply to the receiving end. I was listening to the radio about olympic doping. An official was saying they expect to catch between 20-30 athletes :omg: :wtf: So, the athletes and their respective country don't know about this? Sport has long lost its value and it turned to Sport = Business. I have no problem making business of sports, but first and foremost the spirit of sport needs to be there.

                  Yusuf

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                  Dan Neely
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                  Yusuf wrote:

                  what rules? nowadays rules only apply to the receiving end. I was listening to the radio about olympic doping. An official was saying they expect to catch between 20-30 athletes [OMG] [WTF] So, the athletes and their respective country don't know about this?

                  more likely some think they're clever enough to get away with it, but won't.

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    John - if you looked as good as this[^] girl, nobody would ever downvote you.

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                    Yusuf
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                    Not Available in you Area This content is only available in the UK :mad: Geographical content filtering, :omg: :wtf: I can see the article and images, but the video (I guess) on the top throws an error

                    Yusuf

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                      John - if you looked as good as this[^] girl, nobody would ever downvote you.

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                      Maximilien
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                      "this data is only available in the UK"!! boobs are too big ?

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                      • M Maximilien

                        "this data is only available in the UK"!! boobs are too big ?

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                        Maximilien wrote:

                        boobs are too big ?

                        They appeal to our postcard sense of humour.

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          John - if you looked as good as this[^] girl, nobody would ever downvote you.

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                          Steve Mayfield
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                          I see she's packing a pair of lethal weapons :-O I still prefer the Rhona Mitra Lara Croft [^] :)

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                            :rolleyes: Rumours nothing but rumours. Admit it, you guys got your asses handed to you. More importantly, how many man points are deducted for caring about female gymnasts either way? ;)


                            "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            John C wrote:

                            how many man points are deducted for caring about female gymnasts either way?

                            5 for just this statement :)

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              leckey 0
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                              The original competitors weren't pretty enough so they had to find replacements.

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                                If John looked as good as her he would be very confused.

                                Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                If I looked that good, I wouldn't be confused at all, and I sure as hell wouldn't be a programmer.

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  :rolleyes: Rumours nothing but rumours. Admit it, you guys got your asses handed to you. More importantly, how many man points are deducted for caring about female gymnasts either way? ;)


                                  "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                                  John C wrote:

                                  you guys got your asses handed to you.

                                  I wouldn't say that. The final scores weren't more than 0.5 points different were they? (I can't find the scores on the net because everyone's talking about the age thing.) [EDIT] I finally found the scores - 2.375 points separated China and USA. That's not even "spanked", much less having your ass handed to you...

                                  John C wrote:

                                  More importantly, how many man points are deducted for caring about female gymnasts either way?

                                  I'm complaining about cheating. I don't care about the gymnasts' quality of life. However, I have observed a notably well-fed appearance in the USA squad. :)

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    John C wrote:

                                    you guys got your asses handed to you.

                                    I wouldn't say that. The final scores weren't more than 0.5 points different were they? (I can't find the scores on the net because everyone's talking about the age thing.) [EDIT] I finally found the scores - 2.375 points separated China and USA. That's not even "spanked", much less having your ass handed to you...

                                    John C wrote:

                                    More importantly, how many man points are deducted for caring about female gymnasts either way?

                                    I'm complaining about cheating. I don't care about the gymnasts' quality of life. However, I have observed a notably well-fed appearance in the USA squad. :)

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                                    modified on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:01 PM

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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    However, I have observed a notably well-fed appearance in the USA squad

                                    :laugh:


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                                      If I looked that good, I wouldn't be confused at all, and I sure as hell wouldn't be a programmer.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Question. Would you ever come out of the bedroom or would it be one long journey of self exploration?

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                                        a link[^] Gymnastics has been a joke for a very long time. China is just following in the footsteps of North Korea and Romania. another link[^]

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                                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                        China is just following in the footsteps of North Korea and Romania.

                                        What do you mean by that?

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          It seems that two of the three Chinese female gymnasts are not old enough to legally compete in the 2008 games, but China doctored the evidence and nobody wants to piss off the host country by calling them out on it. Personally, I think the minimum age for all competitors should be 18 by June 30 of the Olympic year (for Winder Olympics, the minimum age month would be January 31 of the Olympic year.

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          There's a minimum age ? I assumed they were all 10 or 12.....

                                          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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