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  • M Marc Clifton

    Christian Graus wrote:

    I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.

    Ah. Sorry to hear that. I suspect my MVP award will be at risk (Jan) because I've hardly contributed to CP this year, given all the stuff going on in my life. Well, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :) Marc

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    Christian Graus
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    Well, I wonder if I can give you my posts ? Apparently it doesn't matter anymore how much I help people, so.....

    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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    • C Christian Graus

      Well, I wonder if I can give you my posts ? Apparently it doesn't matter anymore how much I help people, so.....

      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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      Marc Clifton
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      Apparently it doesn't matter anymore how much I help people, so.....

      Sadly, I've found that to be something of a universal truth. Marc

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      • C Christian Graus

        I don't know. The official story was that I was working for CP so my CP contributions didn't count anymore. But, Nish worked for CP for years, and I worked for at least a year and kept my MVP. The next iteration, quite a few MVPs nominated me and I was not awarded, but new MVPs who post answers a lot less than me, were. My two theories are that someone noticed that I encourage people to think instead of doing their work for them, and they don't like that, or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically. I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.

        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        Thunderbox666
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically.

        My bets on this one... Microsoft have done a hell of a lot to try and get a good reputation for Vista (no matter how much they tried, they still failed)


        "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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        • C Christian Graus

          As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.

          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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          Todd Smith
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          I would definately read intro articles on iPhone development but I wouldn't be doing any actual development. I did some apple / cocoa development stuff at my previous job. Do they have an emulator for the iPhone?

          Todd Smith

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            I would definately read intro articles on iPhone development but I wouldn't be doing any actual development. I did some apple / cocoa development stuff at my previous job. Do they have an emulator for the iPhone?

            Todd Smith

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            Christian Graus
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            Yeah, it's really good too. It even runs apps that won't run on the phone, to my chagrin.

            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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            • C Christian Graus

              As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.

              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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              Chris Maunder
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              What about a mobile.codeproject.com? All things mobile including iPhone, Android (if they ever update the bloody APIs etc etc)

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              • C Christian Graus

                I don't know. The official story was that I was working for CP so my CP contributions didn't count anymore. But, Nish worked for CP for years, and I worked for at least a year and kept my MVP. The next iteration, quite a few MVPs nominated me and I was not awarded, but new MVPs who post answers a lot less than me, were. My two theories are that someone noticed that I encourage people to think instead of doing their work for them, and they don't like that, or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically. I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.

                Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                leckey 0
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                So who actually votes? Is it all other MVPs or a committee?

                Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.

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                  So who actually votes? Is it all other MVPs or a committee?

                  Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  The whole process is shrouded in secrecy, I don't know. MVPs nominate, they do not vote.

                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    What about a mobile.codeproject.com? All things mobile including iPhone, Android (if they ever update the bloody APIs etc etc)

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Yeah, the iPhone is the thing where I have some ideas, and where I see a need, so that sounds like a great idea to me. If you were to create such an area, I'd write some iPhone articles as soon as I was allowed to. I've written the simplest of apps, and some of most basic things have taken a day or two of googling and trawling through terrible documentation to figure out. So, I have a number of ideas for things that should be better documented that I'd write about in the first instance, for sure.

                    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      What about a mobile.codeproject.com? All things mobile including iPhone, Android (if they ever update the bloody APIs etc etc)

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      Dy
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                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                      What about a mobile.codeproject.com?

                      That would be interesting, but an apple.codeproject.com would too (to me at least)

                      - Dy

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.

                        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                        nazgul42
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                        I think that that would be a great thing to add to this site.

                        John 3:16 read it I believe it

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.

                          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                          Tomz_KV
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                          Can you start a new site: appleproject.com?

                          TOMZ_KV

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.

                            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                            Paul A Howes
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                            I agree! There aren't as many Apple-centric developer sites available as for Windows. I'd really enjoy reading (and contributing to!) "Apple Project".

                            Paul

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                            • C Colin Angus Mackay

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Apple's whole approach is IMO insane, although I suspect the rationale is to keep the thing virus free, which I would say DOES make a lot of sense.

                              It doesn't really make a lot (or any) sense. They are using security by obscurity. That is insane!

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                              It's the same reason that Apple users can claim not to wory about viruses - the scammers and other evil people out there shoot at the biggest targets in the assumption that some will hit home - they don't bother with the little targets. If the number of Apple installations ever came to rival Windows installations, you can bet your bottom dollar they would be targeted just as much and holes and exploits would be found!

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.

                                Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                todd deland
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                                So, is there a site? Or is Chris going to add "Apple" in the toolbar? I own cocoasoftware.com and don't do anything with that if anyone would like to start something. Todd

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.

                                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                  parths
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                                  I second that! I've been trying to program for the iPhone since a few months now. I started the wrong way probably in not reading up too much before trying to put our C++ based game engine onto the iPhone. Although it supports C++ code and our engine seems ported (compiles and runs :) )... I've really missed a forum like CP. Apple ideally should've had a forum on their site (not sure if there's one I don't know of.

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                                    I second that! I've been trying to program for the iPhone since a few months now. I started the wrong way probably in not reading up too much before trying to put our C++ based game engine onto the iPhone. Although it supports C++ code and our engine seems ported (compiles and runs :) )... I've really missed a forum like CP. Apple ideally should've had a forum on their site (not sure if there's one I don't know of.

                                    "It was when I found out I could make mistakes that I knew I was on to something." -Ornette Coleman "Philosophy is a study that lets us be unhappy more intelligently." -Anon.

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                                    jwillhite
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                                    I could definitely use an Iphone CP. I've wanted to develop for the iphone as a side project, and i don't like digging through the documentation just to figure out how to code using objective-c

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      Yeah, the iPhone is the thing where I have some ideas, and where I see a need, so that sounds like a great idea to me. If you were to create such an area, I'd write some iPhone articles as soon as I was allowed to. I've written the simplest of apps, and some of most basic things have taken a day or two of googling and trawling through terrible documentation to figure out. So, I have a number of ideas for things that should be better documented that I'd write about in the first instance, for sure.

                                      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                      Peter Kassenaar
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                                      Hi Christian, So? Any updates on this topic; have you come to a decision yet? Personally I'd love to see a board like CP dedicated to iPhone/Apple development. Looking forward, Peter.

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