Apple Project ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
Apple's whole approach is IMO insane, although I suspect the rationale is to keep the thing virus free, which I would say DOES make a lot of sense.
It doesn't really make a lot (or any) sense. They are using security by obscurity. That is insane!
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
They are using security by obscurity. That is insane!
Isn't that the goal of .NET obfuscators? ;) Marc
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Christian Graus wrote:
I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program
How did you get kicked out? Did I miss that story? Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
How did you get kicked out?
An apple a day, keep Microsoft away? :)
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What's to prevent a company from putting an iPhone app on its website and selling it from there? Or are you saying that the only way to upload an app to an iPhone is via the store? If so, my first article will be How to bypass the iPhone Store and sell your app.
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In fact, a jailbroken phone will accept any app. otherwise, it needs to come via the store, or have a special provisioning file created, a license from Apple to write apps lets you provision for 100 phones, but it's a slow back and forth process. Trouble is, the only solution is to jailbreak the phone and not everyone wants to do that.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program
How did you get kicked out? Did I miss that story? Marc
I don't know. The official story was that I was working for CP so my CP contributions didn't count anymore. But, Nish worked for CP for years, and I worked for at least a year and kept my MVP. The next iteration, quite a few MVPs nominated me and I was not awarded, but new MVPs who post answers a lot less than me, were. My two theories are that someone noticed that I encourage people to think instead of doing their work for them, and they don't like that, or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically. I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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I don't know. The official story was that I was working for CP so my CP contributions didn't count anymore. But, Nish worked for CP for years, and I worked for at least a year and kept my MVP. The next iteration, quite a few MVPs nominated me and I was not awarded, but new MVPs who post answers a lot less than me, were. My two theories are that someone noticed that I encourage people to think instead of doing their work for them, and they don't like that, or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically. I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
Christian Graus wrote:
I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.
Ah. Sorry to hear that. I suspect my MVP award will be at risk (Jan) because I've hardly contributed to CP this year, given all the stuff going on in my life. Well, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :) Marc
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
They are using security by obscurity. That is insane!
Isn't that the goal of .NET obfuscators? ;) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Isn't that the goal of .NET obfuscators?
Yes, but I don't use them.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.
Ah. Sorry to hear that. I suspect my MVP award will be at risk (Jan) because I've hardly contributed to CP this year, given all the stuff going on in my life. Well, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :) Marc
Well, I wonder if I can give you my posts ? Apparently it doesn't matter anymore how much I help people, so.....
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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Well, I wonder if I can give you my posts ? Apparently it doesn't matter anymore how much I help people, so.....
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
Christian Graus wrote:
Apparently it doesn't matter anymore how much I help people, so.....
Sadly, I've found that to be something of a universal truth. Marc
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I don't know. The official story was that I was working for CP so my CP contributions didn't count anymore. But, Nish worked for CP for years, and I worked for at least a year and kept my MVP. The next iteration, quite a few MVPs nominated me and I was not awarded, but new MVPs who post answers a lot less than me, were. My two theories are that someone noticed that I encourage people to think instead of doing their work for them, and they don't like that, or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically. I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
Christian Graus wrote:
or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically.
My bets on this one... Microsoft have done a hell of a lot to try and get a good reputation for Vista (no matter how much they tried, they still failed)
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As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
I would definately read intro articles on iPhone development but I wouldn't be doing any actual development. I did some apple / cocoa development stuff at my previous job. Do they have an emulator for the iPhone?
Todd Smith
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I would definately read intro articles on iPhone development but I wouldn't be doing any actual development. I did some apple / cocoa development stuff at my previous job. Do they have an emulator for the iPhone?
Todd Smith
Yeah, it's really good too. It even runs apps that won't run on the phone, to my chagrin.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
What about a mobile.codeproject.com? All things mobile including iPhone, Android (if they ever update the bloody APIs etc etc)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I don't know. The official story was that I was working for CP so my CP contributions didn't count anymore. But, Nish worked for CP for years, and I worked for at least a year and kept my MVP. The next iteration, quite a few MVPs nominated me and I was not awarded, but new MVPs who post answers a lot less than me, were. My two theories are that someone noticed that I encourage people to think instead of doing their work for them, and they don't like that, or I am out for not liking Vista and saying so publically. I wasn't kicked out, out of the blue. The program does not allow for that. You're re-awarded every year, there are four award dates in a year, and I was removed and not reawarded.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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So who actually votes? Is it all other MVPs or a committee?
Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.
The whole process is shrouded in secrecy, I don't know. MVPs nominate, they do not vote.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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What about a mobile.codeproject.com? All things mobile including iPhone, Android (if they ever update the bloody APIs etc etc)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Yeah, the iPhone is the thing where I have some ideas, and where I see a need, so that sounds like a great idea to me. If you were to create such an area, I'd write some iPhone articles as soon as I was allowed to. I've written the simplest of apps, and some of most basic things have taken a day or two of googling and trawling through terrible documentation to figure out. So, I have a number of ideas for things that should be better documented that I'd write about in the first instance, for sure.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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What about a mobile.codeproject.com? All things mobile including iPhone, Android (if they ever update the bloody APIs etc etc)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
What about a mobile.codeproject.com?
That would be interesting, but an apple.codeproject.com would too (to me at least)
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As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
Can you start a new site: appleproject.com?
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As some of you may know, I've been coding for the iPhone. The iPhone SDK is under NDA right now, and the apple docs are as good as the MS docs, which means a lot of things that should be easy, are a nightmare. It seems to me that there's a real opening for a site like CP that has iPhone and Cocoa articles and forums. How many of you guys write for Apple and think that's a good idea ? For the record, the two possibilities I am exploring here are 1 - such a site exists and I didn't know about it, or 2 - Chris should add an Apple next to SQL/Java/*nix on the CP toolbar. Fact is, I've been kicked out of the MS MVP program , the MS centric forums tend to be depressing with repetitive questions at the most basic level and one votes for helpful answers, I'm feeling disillusioned about contributing to helping people use Microsoft products, but I still love being part of CP, it would make me very happy if I could write articles on the iPhone and have them appear here.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
I agree! There aren't as many Apple-centric developer sites available as for Windows. I'd really enjoy reading (and contributing to!) "Apple Project".
Paul
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Christian Graus wrote:
Apple's whole approach is IMO insane, although I suspect the rationale is to keep the thing virus free, which I would say DOES make a lot of sense.
It doesn't really make a lot (or any) sense. They are using security by obscurity. That is insane!
Recent blog posts: *SQL Server / Visual Studio install order *Installing SQL Server 2005 on Vista *Crazy Extension Methods Redux * Mixins My Blog
It's the same reason that Apple users can claim not to wory about viruses - the scammers and other evil people out there shoot at the biggest targets in the assumption that some will hit home - they don't bother with the little targets. If the number of Apple installations ever came to rival Windows installations, you can bet your bottom dollar they would be targeted just as much and holes and exploits would be found!
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