Spontaeous Building Implosion
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Trollslayer wrote:
just jump to wild conclusions
:laugh::laugh::laugh: I don't need to. I remember watching the towers fall that day, and it was pretty obvious what was the cause.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Paul Conrad wrote:
I remember watching the towers fall that day
So do I. I was at the Tech-Ed ending party, surreal enough made up like an outdoor fair in an underground parking garage, and I went back to my room for a joint, and as I stood up to leave, I walked past the TV and saw the first tower collapse. :( It was very surreal. I knew what had happened, but didn't expect the collapse.
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Oakman wrote:
triggering the pancaked collapse.
Which did not occur. Ruled out by the fact that pancaking would simply have been too slow to match the observed collapse time and could not have occured symetrically in an asymetrically reinforced building with asymetrical fires. Even without the unexplained molten metal and eye witness testimonies of multiple eplosions and a demolition countdown this would be a pathetically inadequate explanation. Albeit that they had next to no physical evidence to go on as the crime scene was cleared without forensic examination.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Hey Matthew: The sky is green. It turned green last night at 10 pm. I saw it. It's the US inducing electromagnetic interference to block Soviet propaganda transmissions. Look outside right now! Not blue, GREEN. You have no physical evidence that it's not green, so it's green.
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Hey Matthew: The sky is green. It turned green last night at 10 pm. I saw it. It's the US inducing electromagnetic interference to block Soviet propaganda transmissions. Look outside right now! Not blue, GREEN. You have no physical evidence that it's not green, so it's green.
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Paul Conrad wrote:
I remember watching the towers fall that day
So do I. I was at the Tech-Ed ending party, surreal enough made up like an outdoor fair in an underground parking garage, and I went back to my room for a joint, and as I stood up to leave, I walked past the TV and saw the first tower collapse. :( It was very surreal. I knew what had happened, but didn't expect the collapse.
Brady Kelly wrote:
It was very surreal.
Felt the same here. I was in a lot of disbelief about it until I saw the headlines in the paper the next day. That is about when reality really set in for me. And remembering seeing people jumping out of the building was pretty bad, too. No judging their decision to do so. What angers me more than 9/11 is all of the conspiracy b.s. that float around it.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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73Zeppelin wrote:
The sky is green
Now he's going to blame the Swiss Gnomes.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Gnomes.
You mean those creepy things people put in their gardens that come alive at night? :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
without resorting to hand waving, magic, unexplained phenomena and new physics.
Where did they resort to that? Give specific examples citing the page number of the report and the exact mistake that these engineers made, if you please. Otherwise I'll just have to write you off as one more crank with no knowledge of physics who hasn't even bothered to read the report. Bah, who am I kidding. I've already written you off, but feel free to prove me wrong.
James L. Thomson wrote:
Bah, who am I kidding. I've already written you off, but feel free to prove me wrong.
Where's the 10 button? :laugh: Guess you'll have to settle for a simple 5.
If you don't have the data, you're just another asshole with an opinion.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
The sky is green
Now he's going to blame the Swiss Gnomes.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Of course he will! And then I'll admit it was us! Muwhahahahahaha
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73Zeppelin wrote:
The sky is green
Now he's going to blame the Swiss Gnomes.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
The Bavarian gnomes, a.k.a. The Illuminati.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Brady Kelly wrote:
It was very surreal.
Felt the same here. I was in a lot of disbelief about it until I saw the headlines in the paper the next day. That is about when reality really set in for me. And remembering seeing people jumping out of the building was pretty bad, too. No judging their decision to do so. What angers me more than 9/11 is all of the conspiracy b.s. that float around it.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
I never thought I'd see someone hawking an 'Extra' edition of a newspaper on the street.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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I never thought I'd see someone hawking an 'Extra' edition of a newspaper on the street.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
thought I'd see someone hawking an 'Extra' edition of a newspaper on the street
I didn't say anything about hawking an extra paper. I did have the L.A. Times delivered to me at that time. I still have the front page of 9/12's paper, and also when the Angels won the World Series in '02, along with Mark McGwire breaking Roger Maris's homerun record. Those were all at the time when I actually wasted money subscribing to a newspaper.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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led mike wrote:
you aren't supposed to actually read the documentation
Documentation? What documentation? :laugh:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
It's the bit before the code starts, You know or
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It's the bit before the code starts, You know or
pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Beginning KDevelop Programming[^]
Hope you saw the joke icon :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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dan neely wrote:
thought I'd see someone hawking an 'Extra' edition of a newspaper on the street
I didn't say anything about hawking an extra paper. I did have the L.A. Times delivered to me at that time. I still have the front page of 9/12's paper, and also when the Angels won the World Series in '02, along with Mark McGwire breaking Roger Maris's homerun record. Those were all at the time when I actually wasted money subscribing to a newspaper.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
I didn't have to wait until the next day. I got my copy of the Extra Edition from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette around 2PM on the 11th. It should still be sitting around my parents house with the stuff I never got around to retrieving.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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So in the US NIST has finally released its report on why World Trade Center building 7 collapsed into its own footprint in around 7 seconds on the afternoon of Sept 11 2001. Thermal expansion hey, who would have thunk it. Frankly who would believe it? :suss:
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
At times like this, it is good to have some level-headed, serious perspective... http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons[^]
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
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So in the US NIST has finally released its report on why World Trade Center building 7 collapsed into its own footprint in around 7 seconds on the afternoon of Sept 11 2001. Thermal expansion hey, who would have thunk it. Frankly who would believe it? :suss:
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
The earth is also flat and man never walked on the moon. Oh, and the Matrix is real.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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At times like this, it is good to have some level-headed, serious perspective... http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons[^]
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
Pure gold. I have tears running down my face.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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Well clearly there are still some 1 voting dupes out there very keen to rewrite the laws of physics in the interest of believing what their governers tell them. Well it's OK you've done you unpatriotic duty now and can go back to watching daytime TV. :zzz: :rolleyes:
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Well clearly there are still some 1 voting dupes out there very keen to rewrite the laws of physics in the interest of believing what their governers tell them.
It seems to me that it's the conspiracy nuts who are ignoring some basic laws of the universe.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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Oakman wrote:
triggering the pancaked collapse.
Which did not occur. Ruled out by the fact that pancaking would simply have been too slow to match the observed collapse time and could not have occured symetrically in an asymetrically reinforced building with asymetrical fires. Even without the unexplained molten metal and eye witness testimonies of multiple eplosions and a demolition countdown this would be a pathetically inadequate explanation. Albeit that they had next to no physical evidence to go on as the crime scene was cleared without forensic examination.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Ruled out by the fact that pancaking would simply have been too slow to match the observed collapse time and could not have occured symetrically in an asymetrically reinforced building with asymetrical fires.
I would love to live in a world of absolutes. A complex system, which could only occur once, is reduced to the pontifications of nut jobs, who know for SURE that what happened, could not have happened. Did you read http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons[^] ??? I would love to know your response ( yes, it's written in a humorous fashion, but he's dead right ).
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
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I didn't have to wait until the next day. I got my copy of the Extra Edition from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette around 2PM on the 11th. It should still be sitting around my parents house with the stuff I never got around to retrieving.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
never got around to retrieving.
Same here. It's in one of those blue totes one can pickup at Target or Walmart. Problem is, I have many of those, kind of like all the crates in Indiana Jones movie warehouse. :laugh:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Trollslayer wrote:
Shh - you aren't supposed to actually read the report, just jump to wild conclusions.
Of course. This is a site for software developers after all, where many believe you aren't supposed to actually read the documentation. :laugh:
led mike
led mike wrote:
Of course. This is a site for software developers after all
Wait- hold the PHONE!....you mean it ISN'T a site for structual engineers with in-depth knowledge of building physics and steel chemistry?!?!?!
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.