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  • D David Crow

    CPallini wrote:

    (it initializes only the first array element).

    Not according to the STOSx instructions. Of course, I only use it to initialize POD types to 0. Otherwise, I'd use memset().

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    CPallini
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    Sorry no STOS here:

    ...
    const int N = 10;
    int a[N]={7};
    00401003 xor eax,eax
    00401005 push esi
    00401006 mov dword ptr [esp+8],7
    0040100E mov dword ptr [esp+0Ch],eax
    00401012 mov dword ptr [esp+10h],eax
    00401016 mov dword ptr [esp+14h],eax
    0040101A mov dword ptr [esp+18h],eax
    0040101E mov dword ptr [esp+1Ch],eax
    00401022 mov dword ptr [esp+20h],eax
    00401026 mov dword ptr [esp+24h],eax
    0040102A mov dword ptr [esp+28h],eax
    0040102E mov dword ptr [esp+2Ch],eax
    ...

    (Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition, Win XP). :)

    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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    • C CPallini

      toxcct wrote:

      you are, or the compiler is !

      Maybe the latter: the program:

      #include <iostream>
      using namespace std;

      void main()
      {
      const int N = 10;
      int a[N]={7};

      for (int i=0; i<N;i++)
      {
      cout << a[i] << endl;
      }
      }

      the output:

      7
      0
      0
      0
      0
      0
      0
      0
      0
      0

      The system: Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition running on Win XP. Eventually YOU may be wrong! ;P (actually I'm quite confident you're right, but don't use it unless you really want surprises!) [added] Actually I think VS2008 cannot be so out-of-the-standard. I suppose the standard establishing that, whenever the initialization list is too short, the remaining array items are default-initialized (to 0 if integers). [/added] :)

      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
      [My articles]

      modified on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 11:53 AM

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      SandipG
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      Same output with Visual C++ 6.0, WinXP SP2 :) Surprising..:confused:

      Regards, Sandip.

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        Sorry no STOS here:

        ...
        const int N = 10;
        int a[N]={7};
        00401003 xor eax,eax
        00401005 push esi
        00401006 mov dword ptr [esp+8],7
        0040100E mov dword ptr [esp+0Ch],eax
        00401012 mov dword ptr [esp+10h],eax
        00401016 mov dword ptr [esp+14h],eax
        0040101A mov dword ptr [esp+18h],eax
        0040101E mov dword ptr [esp+1Ch],eax
        00401022 mov dword ptr [esp+20h],eax
        00401026 mov dword ptr [esp+24h],eax
        0040102A mov dword ptr [esp+28h],eax
        0040102E mov dword ptr [esp+2Ch],eax
        ...

        (Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition, Win XP). :)

        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
        [My articles]

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        David Crow
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        CPallini wrote:

        00401003 xor eax,eax

        Look two lines up from this one and you should find:

        rep stosd

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        • D David Crow

          CPallini wrote:

          00401003 xor eax,eax

          Look two lines up from this one and you should find:

          rep stosd

          "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

          "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch

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          CPallini
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          No luck (there isn't such insruction). On the other hand, the output of this program [^] confirms my assumption. See also Sandip's post [^]. I should admit I was very surprised by such a behaviour. :)

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
          [My articles]

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          • S SandipG

            Same output with Visual C++ 6.0, WinXP SP2 :) Surprising..:confused:

            Regards, Sandip.

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            toxcct
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            SandipG :) wrote:

            Same output with Visual C++ 6.0

            Visual C++ is not what a decent programmer call a standard compliant compiler, Sir !

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              No luck (there isn't such insruction). On the other hand, the output of this program [^] confirms my assumption. See also Sandip's post [^]. I should admit I was very surprised by such a behaviour. :)

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
              [My articles]

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              and what about {0} instead of {7}, and in Release Mode, not in Debug Mode ?

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                and what about {0} instead of {7}, and in Release Mode, not in Debug Mode ?

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                CPallini
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                See my added remark here [^]. BTW my tests were of course performed both in Debug and the Release mode. ;P :)

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                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                  and what about {0} instead of {7}, and in Release Mode, not in Debug Mode ?

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                  toxcct wrote:

                  ...and what about {0} instead of {7}...

                  0 works fine.

                  toxcct wrote:

                  ...and in Release Mode, not in Debug Mode ?

                  Same results for both 0 and 7. This is why I only do it when setting things to 0. I use memset() otherwise.

                  "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                  "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch

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                    SandipG :) wrote:

                    Same output with Visual C++ 6.0

                    Visual C++ is not what a decent programmer call a standard compliant compiler, Sir !

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                    CPallini
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                    IMHO such a discrepancy would be too gross, even for VC6. :)

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                    [My articles]

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                      IMHO such a discrepancy would be too gross, even for VC6. :)

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                      [My articles]

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                      yes, probably, but it's not *THE* compiler to test the standard ! ;) ;P

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                      • D David Crow

                        toxcct wrote:

                        ...and what about {0} instead of {7}...

                        0 works fine.

                        toxcct wrote:

                        ...and in Release Mode, not in Debug Mode ?

                        Same results for both 0 and 7. This is why I only do it when setting things to 0. I use memset() otherwise.

                        "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                        "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch

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                        DavidCrow wrote:

                        0 works fine.

                        It is just a side-effect of default (int) initialization: you're actually initializing only the first array item. Try the following code:

                        #include <iostream>
                        using namespace std;

                        struct MyStruct
                        {
                        MyStruct():_i(-1), _j(0),_k(-1){ }
                        MyStruct(int a):_i(a), _j(a), _k(a){ }
                        int _i,_j,_k;
                        };

                        void main()
                        {
                        int i;
                        MyStruct a[5] = {0};
                        for (i=0; i<5; i++)
                        {
                        cout << i << ") {" << a[i]._i << ", " << a[i]._j <<", " << a[i]._k << "}" << endl;
                        }
                        }

                        DavidCrow wrote:

                        This is why I only do it when setting things to 0. I use memset() otherwise.

                        The above is a wise approach. :)

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                        [My articles]

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                          DavidCrow wrote:

                          0 works fine.

                          It is just a side-effect of default (int) initialization: you're actually initializing only the first array item. Try the following code:

                          #include <iostream>
                          using namespace std;

                          struct MyStruct
                          {
                          MyStruct():_i(-1), _j(0),_k(-1){ }
                          MyStruct(int a):_i(a), _j(a), _k(a){ }
                          int _i,_j,_k;
                          };

                          void main()
                          {
                          int i;
                          MyStruct a[5] = {0};
                          for (i=0; i<5; i++)
                          {
                          cout << i << ") {" << a[i]._i << ", " << a[i]._j <<", " << a[i]._k << "}" << endl;
                          }
                          }

                          DavidCrow wrote:

                          This is why I only do it when setting things to 0. I use memset() otherwise.

                          The above is a wise approach. :)

                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                          [My articles]

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                          David Crow
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                          For structs, I'd use memset(). I only use 0 for POD types.

                          "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                          "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch

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                            For structs, I'd use memset(). I only use 0 for POD types.

                            "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                            "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch

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                            CPallini
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                            DavidCrow wrote:

                            For structs, I'd use memset(). I only use 0 for POD types.

                            That's good. :)

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                            [My articles]

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