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  • M MatthysDT

    Dubai Vertical City[^] Is this a hoax? I can't find these exact same images on any official website. 2.4 Km's high 400 Stories Its planning is being tackled like that of a city rather than that of a building. It's not the Burj Dubai, this one is 3-4 times higher!

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    I like the "Vertical Bullet Train" concept.  In this country a lift wouldn't be able to work like a bullet train because there has to be some mechanical fail-safe to stop it if the cables (or magnets in this case) fail.  By introducing this mechanical linkage you negate the use for a "bullet" train.

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    • M MatthysDT

      Dubai Vertical City[^] Is this a hoax? I can't find these exact same images on any official website. 2.4 Km's high 400 Stories Its planning is being tackled like that of a city rather than that of a building. It's not the Burj Dubai, this one is 3-4 times higher!

      Doggy treat[^]

      modified on Monday, September 15, 2008 7:27 AM

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      The Web Developer
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      This is the Official website it is called 'Burj Dubai' http://www.burjdubai.com/[^]

      The Web Developer Beirout-Lebanon

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      • M MatthysDT

        Dubai Vertical City[^] Is this a hoax? I can't find these exact same images on any official website. 2.4 Km's high 400 Stories Its planning is being tackled like that of a city rather than that of a building. It's not the Burj Dubai, this one is 3-4 times higher!

        Doggy treat[^]

        modified on Monday, September 15, 2008 7:27 AM

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        Ruan_B
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        The base jumper's dream :laugh:

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          This is the Official website it is called 'Burj Dubai' http://www.burjdubai.com/[^]

          The Web Developer Beirout-Lebanon

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          blackjack2150
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          That's got nothing to do with the OP. Can't you see the two designs are completely different? X|

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            That's got nothing to do with the OP. Can't you see the two designs are completely different? X|

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            The Web Developer
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            they are the same building. it is under construction now

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              they are the same building. it is under construction now

              The Web Developer Beirout-Lebanon

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              Smithers Jones
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              The Web Developer wrote:

              they are the same building. it is under construction now

              Don't start your old "yes, it is - no, it isn't game again".

              "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                they are the same building. it is under construction now

                The Web Developer Beirout-Lebanon

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                blackjack2150
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                You're so narrow minded that you cannot tell black from white apart.

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                  You're so narrow minded that you cannot tell black from white apart.

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                  The Web Developer
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                  look who is talking "blackjack" do u know what that mean in dubai :laugh:

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                  • M MatthysDT

                    Dubai Vertical City[^] Is this a hoax? I can't find these exact same images on any official website. 2.4 Km's high 400 Stories Its planning is being tackled like that of a city rather than that of a building. It's not the Burj Dubai, this one is 3-4 times higher!

                    Doggy treat[^]

                    modified on Monday, September 15, 2008 7:27 AM

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                    Richard Jones
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                    Other expensive projects in Dubai were land-level, thus much safer, though expensive. The sway would be horrendous. You would need lots of elevators. Cables stretch, so you would have to change elevators every 40 floors or so. Someone pointed out air problems at that altitude. Someone will want to buy one, and someone will want to burn it. I remember a sci-fi story about a space elevator built on a mountain, using an orbiting rock as anchor. People and stuff could be moved without rockets. Nice idea except nutcases live on Earth. I think it's just a pipe dream. A Tower of Babel. Designers come up with concepts all the time, knowing they are impossible with current technology.

                    Cheetah. Ferret. Gonads. What more can I say? - Pete O'Hanlon

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                    • M MatthysDT

                      Dubai Vertical City[^] Is this a hoax? I can't find these exact same images on any official website. 2.4 Km's high 400 Stories Its planning is being tackled like that of a city rather than that of a building. It's not the Burj Dubai, this one is 3-4 times higher!

                      Doggy treat[^]

                      modified on Monday, September 15, 2008 7:27 AM

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                      gri
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                      this is every window cleaner's nightmare! ;P

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                        Other expensive projects in Dubai were land-level, thus much safer, though expensive. The sway would be horrendous. You would need lots of elevators. Cables stretch, so you would have to change elevators every 40 floors or so. Someone pointed out air problems at that altitude. Someone will want to buy one, and someone will want to burn it. I remember a sci-fi story about a space elevator built on a mountain, using an orbiting rock as anchor. People and stuff could be moved without rockets. Nice idea except nutcases live on Earth. I think it's just a pipe dream. A Tower of Babel. Designers come up with concepts all the time, knowing they are impossible with current technology.

                        Cheetah. Ferret. Gonads. What more can I say? - Pete O'Hanlon

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                        Richard Jones wrote:

                        I remember a sci-fi story about a space elevator built on a mountain, using an orbiting rock as anchor. People and stuff could be moved without rockets. Nice idea except nutcases live on Earth.

                        The mountain part is idiotic. You're only saving a few miles on a cable that's between 22 and 44k miles long. It makes much more sense to locate it in the ocean to load cargo ships directly. All we need is a relatively cheap material with one or two orders of magnitude more tensile strength than steel. Carbon nanotubes meet the second requirement.

                        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                          Other expensive projects in Dubai were land-level, thus much safer, though expensive. The sway would be horrendous. You would need lots of elevators. Cables stretch, so you would have to change elevators every 40 floors or so. Someone pointed out air problems at that altitude. Someone will want to buy one, and someone will want to burn it. I remember a sci-fi story about a space elevator built on a mountain, using an orbiting rock as anchor. People and stuff could be moved without rockets. Nice idea except nutcases live on Earth. I think it's just a pipe dream. A Tower of Babel. Designers come up with concepts all the time, knowing they are impossible with current technology.

                          Cheetah. Ferret. Gonads. What more can I say? - Pete O'Hanlon

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                          Richard Jones wrote:

                          I remember a sci-fi story about a space elevator built on a mountain, using an orbiting rock as anchor. People and stuff could be moved without rockets. Nice idea except nutcases live on Earth.

                          You're probably thinking of The Fountains of Paradise[^]. I've read a long time ago...

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                            Richard Jones wrote:

                            I remember a sci-fi story about a space elevator built on a mountain, using an orbiting rock as anchor. People and stuff could be moved without rockets. Nice idea except nutcases live on Earth.

                            The mountain part is idiotic. You're only saving a few miles on a cable that's between 22 and 44k miles long. It makes much more sense to locate it in the ocean to load cargo ships directly. All we need is a relatively cheap material with one or two orders of magnitude more tensile strength than steel. Carbon nanotubes meet the second requirement.

                            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                            The way I recall (about the SF novel, see post above), it was not built on a mountain to reduce the distance, it was because there are only a few points where the geosynchronous orbit is really stable, and the mountain happened to be in that place. The ocean is a good idea though. Red Mars[^] also featured one, but on mars. And it was blown up...

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                              Richard Jones wrote:

                              I remember a sci-fi story about a space elevator built on a mountain, using an orbiting rock as anchor. People and stuff could be moved without rockets. Nice idea except nutcases live on Earth.

                              You're probably thinking of The Fountains of Paradise[^]. I've read a long time ago...

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                              That's it, thanks. :-D Maybe you remember another one about a man who runs a company that accidentally discovers a way to make small black holes. They turn it into transportation devices. Vehicles that can go very fast with no rockets, etc. by creating a series of BH in front of the object, sucking it forward. Naturally some people want to stop this :rolleyes: probably due to financial reasons. I believe the man was of Native American descent, also there were several attempts on his life.

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                                The way I recall (about the SF novel, see post above), it was not built on a mountain to reduce the distance, it was because there are only a few points where the geosynchronous orbit is really stable, and the mountain happened to be in that place. The ocean is a good idea though. Red Mars[^] also featured one, but on mars. And it was blown up...

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                                That's BS. :) Red Mars was my introduction to the concept as well. Green Mars had one as well, it wasn't blow up during the 2nd revolution. At some point in the series the technology improved to the point they had a bunch on the Earth as well. It's been at least 4 years since I read those books though and I'm not sure when that happened.

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                                  That's it, thanks. :-D Maybe you remember another one about a man who runs a company that accidentally discovers a way to make small black holes. They turn it into transportation devices. Vehicles that can go very fast with no rockets, etc. by creating a series of BH in front of the object, sucking it forward. Naturally some people want to stop this :rolleyes: probably due to financial reasons. I believe the man was of Native American descent, also there were several attempts on his life.

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                                  Richard Jones wrote:

                                  They turn it into transportation devices. Vehicles that can go very fast with no rockets, etc. by creating a series of BH in front of the object, sucking it forward.

                                  There's nothing like mega-g tidal forces ripping you into taffy to start the day. :rolleyes:

                                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                    Richard Jones wrote:

                                    They turn it into transportation devices. Vehicles that can go very fast with no rockets, etc. by creating a series of BH in front of the object, sucking it forward.

                                    There's nothing like mega-g tidal forces ripping you into taffy to start the day. :rolleyes:

                                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                    Richard Jones
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                                    Yeah there were a few (black) holes in that story. :laugh:

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                                      It would need some rather deep foundations and wasn't there a parable about building houses on shifting sand? Also, it's a big big target for terrorists. and can you imagine if a fire broke out near the lower levels......... jeepers creepers.

                                      I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                                      All persons who lived or entered building would simply need to be trained sky divers I guess. :P

                                      I'm finding the only constant in software development is change it self.

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