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  • D Dan Neely

    A lowend system with a via/mobile CPU and RDP to the main system? You can get stuff in the same form factor as the mac mini, but significantly cheaper. :cool:

    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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    John M Drescher
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    I find that even on a gigabit network remote desktop is still too slow/annoying to use regularly. Maybe 10G Ethernet will fix that.

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      I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

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      El Corazon
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      I have a 15M Dual Link DVI cable specially made at my desk. the keyboard and mouse are more interesting. The keyboard is a long run USB. and the mouse is wireless RF.

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      • J John M Drescher

        I find that even on a gigabit network remote desktop is still too slow/annoying to use regularly. Maybe 10G Ethernet will fix that.

        John

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        Graham Bradshaw
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        John M. Drescher wrote:

        remote desktop is still too slow

        That sounds like your network, not remote desktop. I regularly use RDP to a remote XP machine over a 1MB domestic (and hence contended) DSL line, and for text-based operations (coding, email etc) it's absolutely fine. Sure, detailed graphics editing is a bit painful, but coding, general document editing etc are just fine.

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          I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

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          Graham Bradshaw
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          How about a wide/large screen laptop? Almost no noise, not tethered to the desktop in another room, no large cables around the place...

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          • G Graham Bradshaw

            How about a wide/large screen laptop? Almost no noise, not tethered to the desktop in another room, no large cables around the place...

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            Lost User
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            I have twin 19" monitors plus keyboard and mouse that suit me, I just would like the option of not having the PC in the living room.

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            • D Dan Neely

              A lowend system with a via/mobile CPU and RDP to the main system? You can get stuff in the same form factor as the mac mini, but significantly cheaper. :cool:

              Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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              Lost User
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              As I say below, I just would like the option of not having the PC in the living room.

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              • L Lost User

                I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

                Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                Sounds pretty straightforward. If the direct connection doesn't work out for you, RDP probably will. My dev box doesn't actually have a keyboard/monitor/mouse...I remote to it (across multiple monitors if available) from one of the other machines in the house. :)

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                • G Graham Bradshaw

                  John M. Drescher wrote:

                  remote desktop is still too slow

                  That sounds like your network, not remote desktop. I regularly use RDP to a remote XP machine over a 1MB domestic (and hence contended) DSL line, and for text-based operations (coding, email etc) it's absolutely fine. Sure, detailed graphics editing is a bit painful, but coding, general document editing etc are just fine.

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                  John M Drescher
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                  Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                  That sounds like your network

                  Its definitely not the network file transfers are over 50MB/s with large files. I did not say it was not usable just that any lag on basic operations I find to annoying to use for more than a few minutes. I guess my point is I would not use this method for more than a few minutes if the pc I was logging connecting to was in the same building. Now if it was miles away, it would be acceptable as long as I am doing mostly text based operations.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

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                    Todd Smith
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                    laptop......

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                    • T Todd Smith

                      laptop......

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                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                      Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

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                      • R Ravi Bhavnani

                        Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

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                        Pawel Krakowiak
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                        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                        Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop

                        But it should be possible to just connect them to the laptop, of course it has to support it, but since we're talking of a hypothetical laptop which wasn't bought yet... ;) I don't know if it would cost the Earth, though.

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                          I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

                          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                          DidiKunz
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                          There are devices caled KVM-extender, that allow a Keyboard, Video and Mouse (therefore stands KVM) to be extended with a Cat-5 Cable. Find an example under http://www.minicom.com/[^] under 'KVM-Solutions'. You probalbly need to use two systems, one for each monitor. We use many of such systems in a Video-production gallery, to keep the noise level down, and have the computers in a machine room. They work very well. Didi

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                          • L Lost User

                            I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

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                            T_Lowder
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                            Search - KVM Extension, KVM Extender or KVM Cable etc. You can get 35ft extenders for not too much money, but it might get a lot more expensive to go over 35 feet. I'm not sure but I bet you can find one with usb and audio too. Tom

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                            • R Ravi Bhavnani

                              Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

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                              CSutherland
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                              Too easy... http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/precn/topics/en/precision_concept_jumppage?c=us&l=en&s=gen[^]

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                              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

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                                andy_p
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                                Hard to replicate two 19" monitors with RDP too :( (please someone tell me I'm wrong!)

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                                  Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                                  That sounds like your network

                                  Its definitely not the network file transfers are over 50MB/s with large files. I did not say it was not usable just that any lag on basic operations I find to annoying to use for more than a few minutes. I guess my point is I would not use this method for more than a few minutes if the pc I was logging connecting to was in the same building. Now if it was miles away, it would be acceptable as long as I am doing mostly text based operations.

                                  John

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                                  Graham Bradshaw
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                                  Have you tried changing the 'Experience' options? I can see if you have all the graphics options turned on, it might be a bit slow. I always set it to "56K modem", even using the Gigabit ethernet connections in the office.

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                                    Sounds pretty straightforward. If the direct connection doesn't work out for you, RDP probably will. My dev box doesn't actually have a keyboard/monitor/mouse...I remote to it (across multiple monitors if available) from one of the other machines in the house. :)

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                                    Lost User
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                                    I'm rewiring the hosue soon, seeing what options there are. It looks like four Cat5e cable will allow the PC or two DVI extenders plus USB and uadio if required.

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                                      Hard to replicate two 19" monitors with RDP too :( (please someone tell me I'm wrong!)

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                                      S Brozius
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                                      You're wrong... Use RDP version 6 and use the /span-option from the command line.. That way, the RDP-session gets stretched to all your monitors. You can even set a fixed width and height, but I cannot remember what the options are for this. Should be in a help-file somewhere on the microsoft-site... (or in the release-notes for the RDP6-client)...

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                                        I'm rewiring the hosue soon, seeing what options there are. It looks like four Cat5e cable will allow the PC or two DVI extenders plus USB and uadio if required.

                                        Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        It might be worth considering Cat6 these days; it really depends on whether you are likely to wantthe extra bandwidth later on.

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                                          You're wrong... Use RDP version 6 and use the /span-option from the command line.. That way, the RDP-session gets stretched to all your monitors. You can even set a fixed width and height, but I cannot remember what the options are for this. Should be in a help-file somewhere on the microsoft-site... (or in the release-notes for the RDP6-client)...

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                                          andy_p
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                                          ahhh - thank you - I've been looking for this for years. It only works when connecting to vista or 2008 though, so I'm still stuck when remoting to xp (could this finally be a reason to upgrade my dev machine to vista?) Work would still have to upgrade their citrix servers to rdp 6, or allow a TS Gateway to accept connections through the corporate firewall, for it to be any use when remoting in to work. Oh well, I can always dream...

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