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  • T Todd Smith

    laptop......

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

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      Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

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      Pawel Krakowiak
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      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

      Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop

      But it should be possible to just connect them to the laptop, of course it has to support it, but since we're talking of a hypothetical laptop which wasn't bought yet... ;) I don't know if it would cost the Earth, though.

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        I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

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        DidiKunz
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        There are devices caled KVM-extender, that allow a Keyboard, Video and Mouse (therefore stands KVM) to be extended with a Cat-5 Cable. Find an example under http://www.minicom.com/[^] under 'KVM-Solutions'. You probalbly need to use two systems, one for each monitor. We use many of such systems in a Video-production gallery, to keep the noise level down, and have the computers in a machine room. They work very well. Didi

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          I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

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          T_Lowder
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          Search - KVM Extension, KVM Extender or KVM Cable etc. You can get 35ft extenders for not too much money, but it might get a lot more expensive to go over 35 feet. I'm not sure but I bet you can find one with usb and audio too. Tom

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          • R Ravi Bhavnani

            Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

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            CSutherland
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            Too easy... http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/precn/topics/en/precision_concept_jumppage?c=us&l=en&s=gen[^]

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              Hard to replicate two 19" monitors on a laptop. :) /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              andy_p
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              Hard to replicate two 19" monitors with RDP too :( (please someone tell me I'm wrong!)

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              • J John M Drescher

                Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                That sounds like your network

                Its definitely not the network file transfers are over 50MB/s with large files. I did not say it was not usable just that any lag on basic operations I find to annoying to use for more than a few minutes. I guess my point is I would not use this method for more than a few minutes if the pc I was logging connecting to was in the same building. Now if it was miles away, it would be acceptable as long as I am doing mostly text based operations.

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                Graham Bradshaw
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                Have you tried changing the 'Experience' options? I can see if you have all the graphics options turned on, it might be a bit slow. I always set it to "56K modem", even using the Gigabit ethernet connections in the office.

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                • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                  Sounds pretty straightforward. If the direct connection doesn't work out for you, RDP probably will. My dev box doesn't actually have a keyboard/monitor/mouse...I remote to it (across multiple monitors if available) from one of the other machines in the house. :)

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                  Lost User
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                  I'm rewiring the hosue soon, seeing what options there are. It looks like four Cat5e cable will allow the PC or two DVI extenders plus USB and uadio if required.

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                    Hard to replicate two 19" monitors with RDP too :( (please someone tell me I'm wrong!)

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                    S Brozius
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                    You're wrong... Use RDP version 6 and use the /span-option from the command line.. That way, the RDP-session gets stretched to all your monitors. You can even set a fixed width and height, but I cannot remember what the options are for this. Should be in a help-file somewhere on the microsoft-site... (or in the release-notes for the RDP6-client)...

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                      I'm rewiring the hosue soon, seeing what options there are. It looks like four Cat5e cable will allow the PC or two DVI extenders plus USB and uadio if required.

                      Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                      It might be worth considering Cat6 these days; it really depends on whether you are likely to wantthe extra bandwidth later on.

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                        You're wrong... Use RDP version 6 and use the /span-option from the command line.. That way, the RDP-session gets stretched to all your monitors. You can even set a fixed width and height, but I cannot remember what the options are for this. Should be in a help-file somewhere on the microsoft-site... (or in the release-notes for the RDP6-client)...

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                        andy_p
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                        ahhh - thank you - I've been looking for this for years. It only works when connecting to vista or 2008 though, so I'm still stuck when remoting to xp (could this finally be a reason to upgrade my dev machine to vista?) Work would still have to upgrade their citrix servers to rdp 6, or allow a TS Gateway to accept connections through the corporate firewall, for it to be any use when remoting in to work. Oh well, I can always dream...

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                          ahhh - thank you - I've been looking for this for years. It only works when connecting to vista or 2008 though, so I'm still stuck when remoting to xp (could this finally be a reason to upgrade my dev machine to vista?) Work would still have to upgrade their citrix servers to rdp 6, or allow a TS Gateway to accept connections through the corporate firewall, for it to be any use when remoting in to work. Oh well, I can always dream...

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                          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                          Believe me it also works remoting to XP - that's how I'm typing this. :)

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                          • G Graham Bradshaw

                            Have you tried changing the 'Experience' options? I can see if you have all the graphics options turned on, it might be a bit slow. I always set it to "56K modem", even using the Gigabit ethernet connections in the office.

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                            Kent K
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                            Yes, there must be a reason for the lag (the lag that shouldn't be) as I RDP a lot from one home computer to another, on a 100 Mbit/sec LAN and don't have problems.

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                              Yes, there must be a reason for the lag (the lag that shouldn't be) as I RDP a lot from one home computer to another, on a 100 Mbit/sec LAN and don't have problems.

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                              Graham Bradshaw
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                              My guess would be that there's some traffic prioritisation or QoS processing going on, and RDP is losing out to other, "more important" traffic.

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                                I'm rewiring the hosue soon, seeing what options there are. It looks like four Cat5e cable will allow the PC or two DVI extenders plus USB and uadio if required.

                                Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                Dan Neely
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                                I've got to agree with Anna here. The marginal cost of running cat6 over cat5e is far smaller than the cost of refitting if you need to do so in the future. Since the only real reason for a wired network now is performance, running anything less than the fastest wire available is an unwise decision.

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                                  As I say below, I just would like the option of not having the PC in the living room.

                                  Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Sorry, you only listed aesthetic reasons, and a fanless minibox would've met those fairly well.

                                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                    I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

                                    Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                    Bogdan Zamfir
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                                    I have about the same situation, and I managed to have it done in a convenient way for me. Maybe something will work for you. First option - you can create your own home-build pc using a very aesthetic case, which fits nicely in your living room. For this purpose you can use one of the many HTPC / Media center PC Cases. In my situation, I put together a pc using Antec Fusion[^] case. You can create a quite powerful system (Intel Quad Core or AMD Phenom CPU). Mine is not that powerful (only Sempron 3200/1.5GB RAM/320 GB SATA + 160 GB UATA), but it runs quite well WinXP Sp2. I use it as a Media Center (with a TV tunner and MediaPortal software) and with ORB to access it as a streaming server. And it also runs MS Virtual Server 2005 which hosts two virtual machines running 7/24: a Win2003 Server and a Ubuntu linux. Win2003 server runs IIS with ASP.NET (1/2), Sql Server 2005 developer, warftp server, mail server, remote access server, subversion server. Ububtu is running for some tests (I'm not using it very actively). I use the Win2003 server for some tests (IIS hosts demo / test versions of some ASP.NET app I'm working on). The pc is hooked to my Samsung LCD on DVI->HDMI, and have a wireless mouse and keyboard, which I can use from my coach. I can use the TV with PIP, so check the server when needed even if kids are watching tv (with some complains from them, of course). I use a huge CPU fan/cooler, and I tweaked it to be noiseless. And the whole system doesn't even looks like a pc. And second option - you can setup a wifi network in your home, and use a small laptop to RDP to server anytime you need to. I use a MSI Wind laptop either by itself, or to RDP into server when I need to (frankly, the wireless keyboard and mouse I have hooked in my "living-room multi-purpose computer" :) doesn't work very well, and I'm looking for a small and slim bluetooth keyboard). Maybe you can use some of my suggestions to setup a configuration that you can use. Greetings, Bogdan Zamfir


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                                    • J John M Drescher

                                      Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                                      That sounds like your network

                                      Its definitely not the network file transfers are over 50MB/s with large files. I did not say it was not usable just that any lag on basic operations I find to annoying to use for more than a few minutes. I guess my point is I would not use this method for more than a few minutes if the pc I was logging connecting to was in the same building. Now if it was miles away, it would be acceptable as long as I am doing mostly text based operations.

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                                      cpkilekofp
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                                      John M. Drescher wrote:

                                      did not say it was not usable just that any lag on basic operations I find to annoying to use for more than a few minutes. I guess my point is I would not use this method for more than a few minutes if the pc I was logging connecting to was in the same building. Now if it was miles away, it would be acceptable as long as I am doing mostly text based operations.

                                      I don't remember how to do this, but I do remember disabling transfer of the background image during remote access, and that killed the noticeable delay I had with screen update, FWIW.

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                                        I am getting a load of work done on the house and I've had an idea (at this point people get nervous, don't know why). It would be nice if the PC wasn't in the living room (noise and esthetics) so I would like the mouse, keyboard, both monitors (each DVI) and maybe USB/audio that can be 15 metres away. Does anyone know of a suitable product that doesn't cost the earth? Thanks. Elaine :rose:

                                        Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                        Jaepetto
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                                        I would definitely use long cables to get the PC connected to the TV. Concerning the remote control, I'm happily using a Logitech diNovo Mini which is using a bluetooth connection. Otherwise, you may consider using LinuxMCE which seem to be a nice thing on a TV.

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                                          As I say below, I just would like the option of not having the PC in the living room.

                                          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                          RGiroux32
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                                          Does this do what you want: http://shop.internetvue.com/product.sc?categoryId=1&productId=2[^]

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