Microsoft Announces Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0
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Microsoft Announces Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0[^] It will be interesting to see what comes out of this: "inspiring developer delight"
..riding the next-generation platform wave, inspiring developer delight, powering breakthrough departmental applications, enabling emerging trends such as cloud computing, and democratizing ALM (application life-cycle management).. Visual Studio Buzzword Edition
Todd Smith
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..riding the next-generation platform wave, inspiring developer delight, powering breakthrough departmental applications, enabling emerging trends such as cloud computing, and democratizing ALM (application life-cycle management).. Visual Studio Buzzword Edition
Todd Smith
The marketing team have been busy again ;P
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Yep. With the slated release date for December 22nd, 2012 :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
Geez. The world was supposed to end in 1996; we're already living on borrowed time. :)
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Perhaps it should be VS0X indicating full support for the C++0X standard. If it doesn't I won't be much interested.
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Isn't that officially called C++08 or 09 now or something? The X was just a placeholder, not part of the name.
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Geez. The world was supposed to end in 1996; we're already living on borrowed time. :)
“Time and space can be a bitch.” –Gushie, Quantum Leap {o,o}.oO( Check out my blog! ) |)””’) piHole.org -”-”-
chaiguy1337 wrote:
world was supposed to end in 1996
What was supposed to end it? It was supposed to end in 2003 when Planet X was to come by and splatter the Earth like a bug on a windshield.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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chaiguy1337 wrote:
world was supposed to end in 1996
What was supposed to end it? It was supposed to end in 2003 when Planet X was to come by and splatter the Earth like a bug on a windshield.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
I believe the '96 one was either a biblical or Nostradamus prophecy. :)
“Time and space can be a bitch.” –Gushie, Quantum Leap {o,o}.oO( Check out my blog! ) |)””’) piHole.org -”-”-
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So Visual Studio 2010 (potentially to be released in 2009), aka VS10, comes after VS-08 (which was released in 2007). No they haven't skipped a number because VS-08 was also known as VS9, so the next number is VS10. VS10 uses version 4.0 of the .net framework, which is the next one up from v3.5 which is what VS9 used by default, but could also use 2.0 or 3.0, but programs written to target v3.5 of the framework still run on v2.0 of the CLR. Is there any word from MS if VS2010 will come with a new CLR. Perhaps v3.0 of the CLR, for apps written in vs10, targeting the 4.0 framework. Or will you be able to choose CLR versions like you could with framework versions in VS9. I wonder what happens if you try writing apps to target the 2.0 framework on the 3.0 CLR. Oh, and hang on, there are also compiler versions involved here, is VS2010 going to include the 4.0 C# compiler, or will they leave it at 3.0? MS - You've screwed up your version numbers. Pick something that makes sense and stick with it -> Mess 1.0
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
So Visual Studio 2010 (potentially to be released in 2009), aka VS10, comes after VS-08 (which was released in 2007).
I guess they've done it to make it look like they're ahead of the game to the consumer.. "Wow, Visual Studio 10 in 2009?! What an achievement!" :rolleyes: Well, they're not fooling me. Regards, --Perspx
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I believe the '96 one was either a biblical or Nostradamus prophecy. :)
“Time and space can be a bitch.” –Gushie, Quantum Leap {o,o}.oO( Check out my blog! ) |)””’) piHole.org -”-”-
1996 was a biblical one? I study the Bible and there's no mention of 1996. :) But it wouldn't surprise me if religious people extrapolated that somehow; religious people have been doing that for ages. :)
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..riding the next-generation platform wave, inspiring developer delight, powering breakthrough departmental applications, enabling emerging trends such as cloud computing, and democratizing ALM (application life-cycle management).. Visual Studio Buzzword Edition
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
democratizing ALM
What does that even mean? Does everyone stand around and vote to manage the application life cycle?
Todd Smith wrote:
inspiring developer delight
Uhh, no? What is this a candy commercial!?
Todd Smith wrote:
enabling emerging trends such as cloud computing
Stop - stop before my head explodes!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
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..riding the next-generation platform wave, inspiring developer delight, powering breakthrough departmental applications, enabling emerging trends such as cloud computing, and democratizing ALM (application life-cycle management).. Visual Studio Buzzword Edition
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
inspiring developer delight
Clippy must be making an appearance. :-\
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1996 was a biblical one? I study the Bible and there's no mention of 1996. :) But it wouldn't surprise me if religious people extrapolated that somehow; religious people have been doing that for ages. :)
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Judah Himango wrote:
1996 was a biblical one? I study the Bible and there's no mention of 1996.
Yep. That is what I am wondering, too. Never heard of any reference to the world ending in 1996.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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1996 was a biblical one? I study the Bible and there's no mention of 1996. :) But it wouldn't surprise me if religious people extrapolated that somehow; religious people have been doing that for ages. :)
Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Feelings-Based Morality of the Secular World The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango
http://www.asa3.org/archive/evolution/199610/0101.html[^] Not actually in the Bible, but by an Archbishop.
“Time and space can be a bitch.” –Gushie, Quantum Leap {o,o}.oO( Check out my blog! ) |)””’) piHole.org -”-”-
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Microsoft Announces Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0[^] It will be interesting to see what comes out of this: "inspiring developer delight"
Bah humbug. I'm looking forward to it - our very own Karl Shiflett is part of the Cider team, and I know that he's working on yummy developer goodness. So stop your carping people, it should be good.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Upgrade too fast. Developers are struggling with new releases all the time to upgrade their applications but have little time to develop new apps between releases.
TOMZ_KV
modified on Monday, September 29, 2008 1:55 PM
Tomz_KV wrote:
Developers are struggling
Technical Leads are struggling to convince with the managers to accomodate for the ugprade costs and mounting additional license charges too right?
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Todd Smith wrote:
inspiring developer delight
Clippy must be making an appearance. :-\
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Judah Himango wrote:
Clippy
The sweet 'Rocky' and 'Rover' should also come back. :)
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Todd Smith wrote:
democratizing ALM
What does that even mean? Does everyone stand around and vote to manage the application life cycle?
Todd Smith wrote:
inspiring developer delight
Uhh, no? What is this a candy commercial!?
Todd Smith wrote:
enabling emerging trends such as cloud computing
Stop - stop before my head explodes!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
...by proactively synergising our core competencies we will allow developers to work smarter not harder...
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Bah humbug. I'm looking forward to it - our very own Karl Shiflett is part of the Cider team, and I know that he's working on yummy developer goodness. So stop your carping people, it should be good.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I'm looking forward to it - our very own Karl Shiflett is part of the Cider team, and I know that he's working on yummy developer goodness.
If Karl was here talking about Cider, i'd be more impressed (even though i care nothing for a cider which i can't drink). But VS isn't promoted to programmers. To read the article linked in the OP, you'd think it was a new toy for the PHB set rather than an overgrown editor.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
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Isn't that officially called C++08 or 09 now or something? The X was just a placeholder, not part of the name.
“Time and space can be a bitch.” –Gushie, Quantum Leap {o,o}.oO( Check out my blog! ) |)””’) piHole.org -”-”-
It is now C++ 2009. :)
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So Visual Studio 2010 (potentially to be released in 2009), aka VS10, comes after VS-08 (which was released in 2007). No they haven't skipped a number because VS-08 was also known as VS9, so the next number is VS10. VS10 uses version 4.0 of the .net framework, which is the next one up from v3.5 which is what VS9 used by default, but could also use 2.0 or 3.0, but programs written to target v3.5 of the framework still run on v2.0 of the CLR. Is there any word from MS if VS2010 will come with a new CLR. Perhaps v3.0 of the CLR, for apps written in vs10, targeting the 4.0 framework. Or will you be able to choose CLR versions like you could with framework versions in VS9. I wonder what happens if you try writing apps to target the 2.0 framework on the 3.0 CLR. Oh, and hang on, there are also compiler versions involved here, is VS2010 going to include the 4.0 C# compiler, or will they leave it at 3.0? MS - You've screwed up your version numbers. Pick something that makes sense and stick with it -> Mess 1.0
Simon
Just drink the damned Kool-Aid™ already. Sheesh.
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Bah humbug. I'm looking forward to it - our very own Karl Shiflett is part of the Cider team, and I know that he's working on yummy developer goodness. So stop your carping people, it should be good.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
I'm stocking up on Preparation H for how they're going to treat the C++ crowd. Again.
Software Zen:
delete this;
Fold With Us![^]