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Is Quality of indian software development is reducing day by day?

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  • H Harvey Saayman

    Christian Graus wrote:

    China is just as bad

    You have no fucking idea dude.. and when you try to get them to explain methods & classes(In an SDK i work with) that aren't in their documentation, then they "no speak engwish velly goot"

    Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Passion != Programming & you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Sorry Harvey - apparently I voted you 1. I've changed it to the 5 I meant to vote.

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    • A anish_bhagwat80

      NO didnt get any directly but as discussion and advertise from China its look.

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      Michael Schubert
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      Is this Babelfish gibberish?

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      • C Christian Graus

        This reply, and your original post, highlight the troubles when trying to communicate with developers in India.

        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        anish_bhagwat80
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        See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

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        • A anish_bhagwat80

          I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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          rastaVnuce
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          Have you ever considered outsorcing to Macedonia? I've worked on a couple of outsorcing projects which had extreme customer satisfaction as a result. Think about it, and when you do contact me ;)

          To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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          • C Christian Graus

            This reply, and your original post, highlight the troubles when trying to communicate with developers in India.

            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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            Lost User
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            What about Romanian programmers? Just curious... and a bit nosy. :D :)

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            • A anish_bhagwat80

              See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

              modified on Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:29 AM

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              Oakman
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              anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

              And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than Chaina at this moment.

              When we're talking levels of unacceptability, it doesn't matter much. Crap is crap. My God, you don't even spell China correctly - how the hell is someone supposed to understand your documentation?

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              • A anish_bhagwat80

                See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

                modified on Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:29 AM

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                Baconbutty
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                Assembling a series of sentences that neither make sense on their own or as a group does not promote good feelings about Indian communication.

                I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                • A anish_bhagwat80

                  See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

                  modified on Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:29 AM

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                  Christian Graus
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                  OK, to be as helpful as I can - indian teams in my experience told me they'd do what I said, then did something else, then disappeared when the deadline appeared and the code didn't. I inevitably ended up doing most of the work myself at the last minute.

                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Sorry Harvey - apparently I voted you 1. I've changed it to the 5 I meant to vote.

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                    Harvey Saayman
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                    Its all good :)

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      This reply, and your original post, highlight the troubles when trying to communicate with developers in India.

                      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                      realJSOP
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                      When job requirements say "good communication skills", that's a secret code phrase meaning "speaks English". :)

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      modified on Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:35 AM

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Sorry Harvey - apparently I voted you 1. I've changed it to the 5 I meant to vote.

                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                        Lost User
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                        Habit? :~ EDIT: Can anyone please explain to me why trailing spaces in posts are deleted? That ruins the smileys posted at the end. :|

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                          Assembling a series of sentences that neither make sense on their own or as a group does not promote good feelings about Indian communication.

                          I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                          anish_bhagwat80
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                          I wont say that i am the best. I just want to know where i am?In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue. We learn English only for communicate with out side India. Any way thanks for suggestions. :)

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            OK, to be as helpful as I can - indian teams in my experience told me they'd do what I said, then did something else, then disappeared when the deadline appeared and the code didn't. I inevitably ended up doing most of the work myself at the last minute.

                            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                            anish_bhagwat80
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                            OK Thanks Mr. Christian Graus! This type of answers i am expecting,it is very helpful to many developers from India.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Habit? :~ EDIT: Can anyone please explain to me why trailing spaces in posts are deleted? That ruins the smileys posted at the end. :|

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                              Dan Neely
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                              Standard html stripping of whitespace. Non breaking spaces work (& nbsp ; ).            :cool:

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                              • H Harvey Saayman

                                Its all good :)

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                                Harvey Saayman wrote:

                                1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

                                You forgot an apostrophe in your signature. :)

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                                • L Lost User

                                  What about Romanian programmers? Just curious... and a bit nosy. :D :)

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                                  Single Step Debugger
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                                  AFAIK they are okay. Don’t loose your sleep.:)

                                  The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                  • M Michael Schubert

                                    Harvey Saayman wrote:

                                    1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

                                    You forgot an apostrophe in your signature. :)

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                                    Harvey Saayman
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                                    i know ;P

                                    Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Passion != Programming & you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                                    • A anish_bhagwat80

                                      I wont say that i am the best. I just want to know where i am?In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue. We learn English only for communicate with out side India. Any way thanks for suggestions. :)

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                                      Pawel Krakowiak
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                                      anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                      In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue. We learn English only for communicate with out side India

                                      Same here.

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                                      • S Single Step Debugger

                                        AFAIK they are okay. Don’t loose your sleep.:)

                                        The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Thanks! :rose: _

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Habit? :~ EDIT: Can anyone please explain to me why trailing spaces in posts are deleted? That ruins the smileys posted at the end. :|

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          sk8er_boy287 wrote:

                                          Habit?

                                          Nope, and I know you meant this ironically. I don't tend to 1 vote - I'd rather deliver a well-crafted insult. It's much more effective, and much less limp-ass.

                                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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