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What do .NET Open Source developers have against mySQL?

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  • B Brady Kelly

    I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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    Steve McLenithan
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    I have no problem with using MySQL when the need arises. The apps I've been working on lately, require more or less xcopy style distribution and speed. So in this case I've been using SQLite in memory.

    // Steve McLenithan

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    • B Brady Kelly

      I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Well, we had a bit(!?!) of a problem with one of the MySQL drivers not releasing connections properly. It caused no end of problems, and was well documented on the MySQL website - but nobody there seemed remotely interested in fixing it.

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      • B Brady Kelly

        I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

        I've Found My Mojo

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

        Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
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          The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

          Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
          Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

          The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

          Oh that you had a typo at the end there. It would make it much more entertaining.

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            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

            Oh that you had a typo at the end there. It would make it much more entertaining.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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            I don't get it?

            Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
            Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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            • B Brady Kelly

              I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              Well... SQL Server is better. :-D

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                Well... SQL Server is better. :-D

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                Brady Kelly
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                I know. :(

                A SINGLE-PHOTON TURNSTILE, a device in which photons are emitted one at a time under controlled circumstances, has been created by a team of scientists from Stanford (US), Hamamatsu Photonics (Japan), and NTT (Japan). Essentially the researchers use the quantization of electrical conductance to produce a quantization of photon emission. They put together a quantum well (the frontier between two thin semiconductor layers) containing a single electron (other electrons are dissuaded from entering because of a "Coulomb blockade" effect) with a quantum well containing a lone (comparably Coulomb blockaded) hole, and then cycle the voltage across the whole stack of layers in such a way that the lone electron and lone hole meet, mate, and make a lone photon. The resulting device, which operates at mK temperatures, is typically a tiny post some 700 nm tall and with a diameter of 200-1000 nm. (J. Kim et al., Nature, 11 February 1999.)

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  The only way to design a system without the database in mind is to ignore the features of the particular platform that make it really shine.

                  Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                  Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                  Brady Kelly
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                  For certain applications that don't require much shine, generalisation wins. With small business oriented, low database usage pretty much makes what shines moot; you don't see the shine until you do a real database centric application.

                  A SINGLE-PHOTON TURNSTILE, a device in which photons are emitted one at a time under controlled circumstances, has been created by a team of scientists from Stanford (US), Hamamatsu Photonics (Japan), and NTT (Japan). Essentially the researchers use the quantization of electrical conductance to produce a quantization of photon emission. They put together a quantum well (the frontier between two thin semiconductor layers) containing a single electron (other electrons are dissuaded from entering because of a "Coulomb blockade" effect) with a quantum well containing a lone (comparably Coulomb blockaded) hole, and then cycle the voltage across the whole stack of layers in such a way that the lone electron and lone hole meet, mate, and make a lone photon. The resulting device, which operates at mK temperatures, is typically a tiny post some 700 nm tall and with a diameter of 200-1000 nm. (J. Kim et al., Nature, 11 February 1999.)

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    For certain applications that don't require much shine, generalisation wins. With small business oriented, low database usage pretty much makes what shines moot; you don't see the shine until you do a real database centric application.

                    A SINGLE-PHOTON TURNSTILE, a device in which photons are emitted one at a time under controlled circumstances, has been created by a team of scientists from Stanford (US), Hamamatsu Photonics (Japan), and NTT (Japan). Essentially the researchers use the quantization of electrical conductance to produce a quantization of photon emission. They put together a quantum well (the frontier between two thin semiconductor layers) containing a single electron (other electrons are dissuaded from entering because of a "Coulomb blockade" effect) with a quantum well containing a lone (comparably Coulomb blockaded) hole, and then cycle the voltage across the whole stack of layers in such a way that the lone electron and lone hole meet, mate, and make a lone photon. The resulting device, which operates at mK temperatures, is typically a tiny post some 700 nm tall and with a diameter of 200-1000 nm. (J. Kim et al., Nature, 11 February 1999.)

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    My bias is obvious as my primary business is large scale database applications so it hard for me to give the other a fair shake.

                    Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
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                    • S Stuart Dootson

                      Brady Kelly wrote:

                      Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site.

                      Thought of trying Trac? If only so you're using Python and can retain some self-respect?

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                      l a u r e n
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                      that would be a dig at php i'm assuming?

                      "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                      • B Brady Kelly

                        I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

                        I've Found My Mojo

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                        Rocky Moore
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                        The very first thing is probably the licensing. They model has been confusing to say the least. Then there is the new owner....

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                        • L l a u r e n

                          that would be a dig at php i'm assuming?

                          "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          You'd be pretty much right - I much prefer Python (yes, I'm a bit of a language snob :-))

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            I don't get it?

                            Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                            Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                            Lost User
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                            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                            I don't get it?

                            If only you had a typo in your last sentence. Specifically shit instead of shine.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              I've just been scuppered on installing either of two promising looking open source bug tracking products, BugTracker.NET and BugNET, because they both only support MSSQL databases. I appreciate the hard work of the, I think in both cases, solo developers, but DB agnosticism is crucial when developing for hosted environments. It should be one of the first features, not the last. Mantis it is then, I guess, even if I have to assimilate PHP into my site. ;P

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                              ctrager
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                              I'm the author of BugTracker.NET. For sure you can find hosting companies that offer SQL Server. I'm running this demo[^] at GoDaddy.com, for example, and it's just a few bucks a month. I started off developing in a DB agnostic way, but it was hard not to take advantage of SQL features specific to SQL Server. And later, once Microsoft released their free, easy, excellent SQL Server Express, there wasn't much point. For me personally, when I started my app, it was just a little project for me to learn ASP.NET, C#, and other Microsoft technologies. I didn't foresee it becoming so widely used, and I certainly didn't look ahead to it being hosted. But, when I myself played with the idea of hosting BugTracker.NET instances commercially, I did come to learn that it's much cheaper to get a dedicated (virtual) server running Linux than Windows. But following that logic, I should have developed in PHP, not .NET.

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