USA: “Obsession” Anti-Islam Film Angers Bloggers
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bulg wrote:
B) tell her you don't get paid nearly enough to listen to her sh*t?
B's fine. I might use somewhat less colorful language if the kids are around, but I have never suffered fools gladly.
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On the idea of respect - I absolutely agree it is earned, period. It can be earned because of some one's: opinion or positions (a smart gal/guy), their title (you can show respect to a title, but not necessarily the title holder), their skill at something - all irrespective of whether you like or admire them. I've worked with and for people I despised on a personal level but respected them for their technical skills or technical insight. Admiration is sort of like love. It is a feeling, not something you decide to give but something you can't help but feel, or not feel as the case may be.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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And I don't disagree with that. But respect should get equal footing as well. Some people believe religion should be respected before freedom. Some believe freedom above all else. I say if you had respect, you would have both. But people seem to lose sight of love thy neighbor and all that. And I'm not talking about the US or any particular country. I'm saying people in general, except playboy bunnies of course.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
except playboy bunnies of course
They don't get no respect? :mad:
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other
It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand. I've met more than one person who I considered to be an arrogant asshole, but whose work was outstanding. I will usually play nice when I am forced to be in the company of friend's friends who I think aren't worthy of respect. But in that case, I am behaving with respect to my friend, not his friends.
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Oakman wrote:
It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand.
Yeah, like Phil Collins. :laugh:
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right,
So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
it just propagates one
I didn't know you were into horticulture. In other words, when the fuck did Muslims adopt the idea of turning the other cheek? No, not those cheeks!
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Oakman wrote:
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Two wrongs don't makedo a right, [?] So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .
il
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Oakman wrote:
rim-shot
:suss:
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
I'm also saying that the US usually forbids this
Horse-puckey. Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
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Oakman wrote:
Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
il
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First off, I'm not sure what caricature you are even talking about (nor do I care), but frankly it doesn't even sound relevant. Second, I never mentioned "The Davinci Code" (I don't even regard it as particularly "anti-christian"). In fact what I had in mind was "The Beast Movie" a 2006 film whose premise was thet Jesus never existed, but was made up as part of a world domination plot". Made by a very non-christian film maker... My point is simply that the right to free speech is more important than the feelings of any religion. Just not liking what is said about a particular religion is no excuse for allowing the government to censor that speech.
Rob Graham wrote:
"The Beast Movie
Added to my list. :)
il
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You're just Wong!
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
You're only right when someone is standing to your left.
:laugh: Then Stan is always right? :omg:
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
except playboy bunnies of course
They don't get no respect? :mad:
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Respect is given, admiration is earned
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
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Oakman wrote:
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
I've noticed over the last 10 years or so the meaning of respect has changed. I blame Oprah. What is now often called respect is what I know as being polite. I'm polite to people I dont know but respect is something that's earned
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Oakman wrote:
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
I've noticed over the last 10 years or so the meaning of respect has changed. I blame Oprah. What is now often called respect is what I know as being polite. I'm polite to people I dont know but respect is something that's earned
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very true. My earlier post as evidence, I really meant A) Be polite. B).... curse you, oprah!
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I don't disagree with that. You are 100% right. I'm just saying that what was done was underhanded. It wasn't a debate or something discussed or anything. It was propaganda, nothing more. And I'm not talking about every instance, just this one. I take each event as it comes so as not to generalize.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
... I'm just saying that what was done was underhanded. It wasn't a debate or something discussed or anything. It was propaganda, nothing more. And I'm not talking about every instance, just this one. ...
(Assuming you're still talking about "Obsession") Really? And you know this, how? Because a bunch of irrational people are jumping up and down threatening to murder other people?
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Propaganda. Everybody uses toilet paper. :| :rolleyes:
I'm not so sure about that. One of the bitches that *some* Moslems make about Americans is that we don't use our left hands to wipe -- you know, like "the Perfect Man" did -- which, in their view, makes us both (physically) dirty and (morally) unclean.
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Oakman wrote:
Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
il
Brady Kelly wrote:
Oakman: Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately. Brady Kelly: Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
You lie. Of course.
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Oakman wrote:
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
I've noticed over the last 10 years or so the meaning of respect has changed. I blame Oprah. What is now often called respect is what I know as being polite. I'm polite to people I dont know but respect is something that's earned
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Oakman wrote:
Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
il
Brady Kelly wrote:
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution
That is because you are *intellectually dishonest!* How could someone who is a *fool* and a *liar* possibly have a constitution that was not imperfect?
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