USA: “Obsession” Anti-Islam Film Angers Bloggers
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Oakman wrote:
rim-shot
:suss:
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
I'm also saying that the US usually forbids this
Horse-puckey. Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
il
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First off, I'm not sure what caricature you are even talking about (nor do I care), but frankly it doesn't even sound relevant. Second, I never mentioned "The Davinci Code" (I don't even regard it as particularly "anti-christian"). In fact what I had in mind was "The Beast Movie" a 2006 film whose premise was thet Jesus never existed, but was made up as part of a world domination plot". Made by a very non-christian film maker... My point is simply that the right to free speech is more important than the feelings of any religion. Just not liking what is said about a particular religion is no excuse for allowing the government to censor that speech.
Rob Graham wrote:
"The Beast Movie
Added to my list. :)
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
You're only right when someone is standing to your left.
:laugh: Then Stan is always right? :omg:
il
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You're just Wong!
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
except playboy bunnies of course
They don't get no respect? :mad:
il
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Respect is given, admiration is earned
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
I've noticed over the last 10 years or so the meaning of respect has changed. I blame Oprah. What is now often called respect is what I know as being polite. I'm polite to people I dont know but respect is something that's earned
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Oakman wrote:
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
I've noticed over the last 10 years or so the meaning of respect has changed. I blame Oprah. What is now often called respect is what I know as being polite. I'm polite to people I dont know but respect is something that's earned
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very true. My earlier post as evidence, I really meant A) Be polite. B).... curse you, oprah!
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I don't disagree with that. You are 100% right. I'm just saying that what was done was underhanded. It wasn't a debate or something discussed or anything. It was propaganda, nothing more. And I'm not talking about every instance, just this one. I take each event as it comes so as not to generalize.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
... I'm just saying that what was done was underhanded. It wasn't a debate or something discussed or anything. It was propaganda, nothing more. And I'm not talking about every instance, just this one. ...
(Assuming you're still talking about "Obsession") Really? And you know this, how? Because a bunch of irrational people are jumping up and down threatening to murder other people?
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Propaganda. Everybody uses toilet paper. :| :rolleyes:
I'm not so sure about that. One of the bitches that *some* Moslems make about Americans is that we don't use our left hands to wipe -- you know, like "the Perfect Man" did -- which, in their view, makes us both (physically) dirty and (morally) unclean.
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Oakman wrote:
Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
il
Brady Kelly wrote:
Oakman: Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately. Brady Kelly: Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
You lie. Of course.
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Oakman wrote:
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
I've noticed over the last 10 years or so the meaning of respect has changed. I blame Oprah. What is now often called respect is what I know as being polite. I'm polite to people I dont know but respect is something that's earned
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Oakman wrote:
Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution.
il
Brady Kelly wrote:
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution
That is because you are *intellectually dishonest!* How could someone who is a *fool* and a *liar* possibly have a constitution that was not imperfect?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
except playboy bunnies of course
They don't get no respect? :mad:
il
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Brady Kelly wrote:
Yet Il'diot considers this qualification an exclusion of freedom of speech in our SA constitution
That is because you are *intellectually dishonest!* How could someone who is a *fool* and a *liar* possibly have a constitution that was not imperfect?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Yes, how could +anyone+ interpret *this* as a reasonable right to _freedom_ of *expression*? 16. Freedom of expression 1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, which includes 1. freedom of the press and other media; 2. freedom to receive or impart information or ideas; 3. freedom of artistic creativity; and 4. academic freedom and freedom of scientific research. 2. The right in subsection (1) does not extend to 1. propaganda for war; 2. incitement of imminent violence; or 3. advocacy of hatred that is based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and that constitutes incitement to cause harm. I think >he< doesn't like 16.1.4.
il
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The disconnect might be the difference between respect and courtesy. I'm courteous to people I don't respect. I don't need to be discourteous and show my disrespect.
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Oakman wrote:
rim-shot
:suss:
il