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  • H Hans Dietrich

    As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

    Best wishes, Hans


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    GuyThiebaut
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    There is a good chance that they will be able to give some useful input,so if you can give them some attention you may: 1 - get the useful information. 2 - build some trust with them which could be very valuable. Their arrogance may be a shield or a way of communication that they have not yet realised is ineffective. What really counts is getting at the information they are trying to communicate, and helping them to communicate the information by listening to them and not ignoring them - most other people probably ignore them and giving them that little bit of attention could make all the difference to your business relationship with them.

    Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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    • H Hans Dietrich

      As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

      Best wishes, Hans


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      Joan M
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      You should try to convince them to work your way... your job is part of knowledge on the topic you are a consultant (I guess IT :rolleyes: ) and part of knowledge on psychology in order to be able to make your people to behave the way you want... In your job, letting one programmer alone doing what he/she wants means loosing a couple of hands to work... The hardest part I guess is to convince people to work the way you want coming from outside of the company... PS: If you fail convincing him/her, kill him/her and cut him/her in small pieces and place those pieces into the flowerpots, at lest the flowers will grow well... My two cents...

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      • H Hans Dietrich

        As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

        Best wishes, Hans


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        You need an outlaw. No, you need a programmer. Hang on, I've got an idea....

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        • H Hans Dietrich

          As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

          Best wishes, Hans


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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          I use a fixed "you're talking crap and you know it" smile and a large rubber hammer. A hint of gentle sarcasm doesn't go amiss either.

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          • E El Corazon

            Shog9 wrote:

            buying me a pitcher of good beer works pretty well... Shucks

            I am not allowed to give gifts over $20... Is the pitcher $20 or less? ;P

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            El Corazon wrote:

            Is the pitcher $20 or less?

            They start out that way... ;)

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            You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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            • H Hans Dietrich

              As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

              Best wishes, Hans


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              Member 96
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              Hans Dietrich wrote:

              How do you deal with such people?

              Don't consult, it's a suckers game at best.


              "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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              • S Shog9 0

                El Corazon wrote:

                Is the pitcher $20 or less?

                They start out that way... ;)

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                You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                El Corazon
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                Shog9 wrote:

                They start out that way... Wink

                no one ever said how many times you can have $20 or less... ;)

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                • H Hans Dietrich

                  As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

                  Best wishes, Hans


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                  Roger Wright
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                  Having often been accused of arrogance I can tell you how others handle me. They ignore me, hoping I'll go away, then proceed to do whatever they're doing without my input. Sometimes they ask for my advice, which I provide freely, then they again proceed to do it their way. After the fact, when the job is FUBAR, they come back to me, and I fix it or do it over the way it obviously should have been done.

                  "I'm not Arrogant! Arrogance is a fault, and I haven't any."

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Find out what they are afraid of. Arrogance is a shield used to cover ignorance and insecurity.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    I'm just arrogant because I enjoy being a know-it-all PITA. ;) There's no insecurity in there whatsoever.

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      Having often been accused of arrogance I can tell you how others handle me. They ignore me, hoping I'll go away, then proceed to do whatever they're doing without my input. Sometimes they ask for my advice, which I provide freely, then they again proceed to do it their way. After the fact, when the job is FUBAR, they come back to me, and I fix it or do it over the way it obviously should have been done.

                      "I'm not Arrogant! Arrogance is a fault, and I haven't any."

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      Roger Wright wrote:

                      "I'm not Arrogant! Arrogance is a fault, and I haven't any."

                      I have a fault - it's being surrounded by people who don't live up to my own high standards.

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                      • H Hans Dietrich

                        As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

                        Best wishes, Hans


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                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                        I didn't know we worked together? Seriously, though, most often they have built themselves a little kingdom and any threat to their credibility results in a full fledged attack. If you, as a consultant, are forced to work with the hyper arrogant, who is also an idiot, you are in trouble. The best tactic is to maintain mature and professional attitude and do all correspondence via email with CC's to the supervisor. Any time you are confronted just say, "That is a good idea, let me think about it and get back to you" then follow up with a tactful email explaining just why the particular brain-fart in question is retarded, again with the CC.

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                        • H Hans Dietrich

                          As a consultant, I frequently work with teams where at least one person is arrogant and refuses to listen to anyone else. My usual approach is to just ignore them and work around them. I have learned that going to their manager is just asking for trouble. I have seen El Corazon talk about people like this. How do you deal with such people?

                          Best wishes, Hans


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                          Snowman58
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                          Three approaches depends on the relative strengths / political situation / personalities; 1) Ignore him - which may work or may only drive his opposition underground so he undercuts you behind your back. 2) Politely ask him (in front of the person that hired you if possible) why you were hired since he already had a solution? Offer to back out and let him do the project. He will have to; get on board with your solution, increase his workload and / or offend the boss. 3) Co-op him by suggesting he produce an alternative solution along the lines of his suggestions and offer to jointly test/benchmark the two solutions and incorporate the best of the best into the final product. Who knows, he might even have a better solution!

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