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  • C Christian Graus

    Too bad, buying a Mac has solved most of my issues.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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    Mine not ... the mac does not boot anymore :(

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    • R Roger Wright

      So after months of trying to get Visual Studio 2008 Express to install correctly I finally gave up and bought the retail Standard Edition. It installed beautifully, no errors, no blue screens - that's a first for any MS product since Win2K RC2. Good jobs boys and girls! :-D So I happily opened the program tonight, ready to start reading up on the new features and planning several apps I need for work. What could go wrong? It installed correctly without a single error, and I checked all the installation logs, just to be sure - all perfect. A click on Help, and I'm off... to nowhere. :sigh: Page cannot be displayed - i.e. 404 error - the same thing I got with every attempt to install the Express edition. I've spent the entire evening trying to find a solution to this without success, and calling support isn't an option - microsoft supports nothing. I can't think of any product made anywhere in the world that has no support, at least for a limited time. Only MS gets away with this kind of wholesale theft and fraud. I don't understand why they're still in business... I apologize for my obvious frustration, but I'm at wits end. Can anyone shed some light on what the problem might be? Believe me, I've been through every related article on TechNet and MSDN, tried them all, and nothing has worked. Buying a Mac isn't a solution, though it's tempting. I can't afford one, and the company is exclusively Microsoft oriented...:mad:

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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      Ed Poore
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      I've just noticed that you're running on Windows 2003.  Do you by any chance have that feature which blocks all but trusted sites through IE?  Protected mode or something?  Although I'd expect that to pop up a message relating to that topic. I'll fire up a VM and see if I can install my copy of VS2008 onto it.

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        So after months of trying to get Visual Studio 2008 Express to install correctly I finally gave up and bought the retail Standard Edition. It installed beautifully, no errors, no blue screens - that's a first for any MS product since Win2K RC2. Good jobs boys and girls! :-D So I happily opened the program tonight, ready to start reading up on the new features and planning several apps I need for work. What could go wrong? It installed correctly without a single error, and I checked all the installation logs, just to be sure - all perfect. A click on Help, and I'm off... to nowhere. :sigh: Page cannot be displayed - i.e. 404 error - the same thing I got with every attempt to install the Express edition. I've spent the entire evening trying to find a solution to this without success, and calling support isn't an option - microsoft supports nothing. I can't think of any product made anywhere in the world that has no support, at least for a limited time. Only MS gets away with this kind of wholesale theft and fraud. I don't understand why they're still in business... I apologize for my obvious frustration, but I'm at wits end. Can anyone shed some light on what the problem might be? Believe me, I've been through every related article on TechNet and MSDN, tried them all, and nothing has worked. Buying a Mac isn't a solution, though it's tempting. I can't afford one, and the company is exclusively Microsoft oriented...:mad:

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        wout de zeeuw
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        Hey man, this is the lounge! Look elsewhere (and also do not whine about 1-votes, I made that mistake yesterday! :laugh:) Did you check the event log for messages?

        Wout

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        • R Roger Wright

          So after months of trying to get Visual Studio 2008 Express to install correctly I finally gave up and bought the retail Standard Edition. It installed beautifully, no errors, no blue screens - that's a first for any MS product since Win2K RC2. Good jobs boys and girls! :-D So I happily opened the program tonight, ready to start reading up on the new features and planning several apps I need for work. What could go wrong? It installed correctly without a single error, and I checked all the installation logs, just to be sure - all perfect. A click on Help, and I'm off... to nowhere. :sigh: Page cannot be displayed - i.e. 404 error - the same thing I got with every attempt to install the Express edition. I've spent the entire evening trying to find a solution to this without success, and calling support isn't an option - microsoft supports nothing. I can't think of any product made anywhere in the world that has no support, at least for a limited time. Only MS gets away with this kind of wholesale theft and fraud. I don't understand why they're still in business... I apologize for my obvious frustration, but I'm at wits end. Can anyone shed some light on what the problem might be? Believe me, I've been through every related article on TechNet and MSDN, tried them all, and nothing has worked. Buying a Mac isn't a solution, though it's tempting. I can't afford one, and the company is exclusively Microsoft oriented...:mad:

          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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          Help in the IDE is pointless. I never use it. I just use google.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          • C Christian Graus

            Too bad, buying a Mac has solved most of my issues.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            buying a Mac has solved most of my issues.

            A Mac isn't going to solve the help problems in VS2008/5/3.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • D DaveX86

              Your help startup page that doesn't load was: ms-help://MS.VSCC.v90/MS.MSDNQTR.v90.en/dv_vstoc/html/06ddebea-2c83-4a45-bb48-6264c797ed93.htm My Help startup page is: ms-help://MS.VSCC.v90/dv_vscccommon/html/05f46ffd-ff64-4c94-a0fc-bb665d74d24d.htm I'm running VStudio 2008 Service Pack 1 (you might try that too...maybe they fixed your bug). If you run REGEDIT and go to key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSDN\9.0\WebBrowser ...you can find the startup page of your Help system...maybe try changing it like mine for laughs.

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              Roger Wright
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              That's a good idea - I'll try it after work tonight. Another possibility that I may try is to reinstall everything on the C: drive. It's not as common a problem as it used to be, but there are still some products that have trouble when not installed in the default location.

              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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              • W wout de zeeuw

                Hey man, this is the lounge! Look elsewhere (and also do not whine about 1-votes, I made that mistake yesterday! :laugh:) Did you check the event log for messages?

                Wout

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                Roger Wright
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                wout de zeeuw wrote:

                Did you check the event log for messages?

                Yes, I did. "Installation completed successfully." :sigh: Both for Visual Studio 2008 and Document Explorer 8. Grrrrrr.

                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  wout de zeeuw wrote:

                  Did you check the event log for messages?

                  Yes, I did. "Installation completed successfully." :sigh: Both for Visual Studio 2008 and Document Explorer 8. Grrrrrr.

                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  wout de zeeuw
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                  Damn hay gomosexuals!

                  Wout

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                  • R realJSOP

                    Help in the IDE is pointless. I never use it. I just use google.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    wout de zeeuw
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                    I guess I'm one of the few who likes it then *scratch head*. Click some word, press F1 and *poof* there's the help! First time startup is a bit slow, but that's just once so it doesn't bother me that much.

                    Wout

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      That's a good idea - I'll try it after work tonight. Another possibility that I may try is to reinstall everything on the C: drive. It's not as common a problem as it used to be, but there are still some products that have trouble when not installed in the default location.

                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                      Yeah, try that. If you have a chance, try getting Service Pack 1[^] as well

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        The opening link is: ms-help://MS.VSCC.v90/MS.MSDNQTR.v90.en/dv_vstoc/html/06ddebea-2c83-4a45-bb48-6264c797ed93.htm I have no idea how to trace it. All I get is a File Not Found, or Action Cancelled message, and nothing helpful for debugging.

                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                        Here is what the page looks like http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=helpmn0.jpg[^]. See if you can browse to that page by navigating the content tree. If not, maybe check your installation options? Some MS installers have that "do not install to disk" option which can lead to those annoying "please insert CD" infinite loops.

                        Todd Smith

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                        • T Todd Smith

                          Here is what the page looks like http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=helpmn0.jpg[^]. See if you can browse to that page by navigating the content tree. If not, maybe check your installation options? Some MS installers have that "do not install to disk" option which can lead to those annoying "please insert CD" infinite loops.

                          Todd Smith

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                          Roger Wright
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                          That's the exact URL I have displayed, but all I get is: "The page cannot be displayed The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings. " etc... I did find entries in the registry for another version of MSDN, but there is no entry in the installed programs list. So I deleted the keys, located the left behind files, and moved them elsewhere. I'm practically certain that it's an interaction between MSDN and the WIn2K3 Server or its Small Business Server addon. What I can't figure out is what that might be. There are absolutely no error messages or failures in any of the logs, or the event viewer. According to WIndows, the install went perfectly. :sigh:

                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                          • D DaveX86

                            Yeah, but Visual Studio is practically an Operating System unto itself. Anyway, it's just a thought...trying to suggest things you might not have thought of...

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                            Roger Wright
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                            I do occasionally have a message blocking ActiveX, but there's no setting I can find in IE to turn it off. Maybe I can try to add "ms-help://*" to the Trusted Sites zone?

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                              I do occasionally have a message blocking ActiveX, but there's no setting I can find in IE to turn it off. Maybe I can try to add "ms-help://*" to the Trusted Sites zone?

                              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                              Ummm...anything coming from your local computer should be 'localhost', no? Did you try the thing with the registry?

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                              • E Ed Poore

                                I've just noticed that you're running on Windows 2003.  Do you by any chance have that feature which blocks all but trusted sites through IE?  Protected mode or something?  Although I'd expect that to pop up a message relating to that topic. I'll fire up a VM and see if I can install my copy of VS2008 onto it.

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                                Rocky Moore
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                                That is a very good point. I know Win 2003 has a lot of things locked down in IE!

                                Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Windows Live to OpenID, no return love? Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                  That is a very good point. I know Win 2003 has a lot of things locked down in IE!

                                  Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Windows Live to OpenID, no return love? Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                  Ed Poore
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                                  I just tried installing VS2008 + MSDN Help (Professional edition) onto a vanilla copy of Win2003 and the help worked fine.  Via contents, haven't tried context sensitive help though.  Didn't disable anything so ...

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                                    I just tried installing VS2008 + MSDN Help (Professional edition) onto a vanilla copy of Win2003 and the help worked fine.  Via contents, haven't tried context sensitive help though.  Didn't disable anything so ...

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                                    Rocky Moore
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                                    Boy, that is strange. You must have your main development machine hosed somewhere. Did you ever run a locked tool (like one Microsoft supplied quite a while back) or anything like that? Maybe it is hosed from all the prior attempts. At least now you know it is your current configuration and not Windows nor VS 2008 :) Edit: Opps.. Was talking to the wrong person.. Oh well, now he knows it works on a standard WIn 2003 without any changes :-O

                                    Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: LINQ to SQL Dead? Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                      Boy, that is strange. You must have your main development machine hosed somewhere. Did you ever run a locked tool (like one Microsoft supplied quite a while back) or anything like that? Maybe it is hosed from all the prior attempts. At least now you know it is your current configuration and not Windows nor VS 2008 :) Edit: Opps.. Was talking to the wrong person.. Oh well, now he knows it works on a standard WIn 2003 without any changes :-O

                                      Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: LINQ to SQL Dead? Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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                                      Ed Poore
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                                      I've been thinking about your reply for the last couple of hours and wondering what on earth you were on about...

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                                      • E Ed Poore

                                        I've been thinking about your reply for the last couple of hours and wondering what on earth you were on about...

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                                        Rocky Moore
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                                        My inital thought was that I was replying to Roger Wright who had the problem and that it was he that had tested wtih a VM. After I posted the message I noticed it was you who instead, so most of the message did not apply to you :)

                                        Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: LINQ to SQL Dead? Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com

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