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Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
origin.OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner? Peace!
-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?
Unfortunately I have to work hard NOT to pick up accents. I know it bothers people, but the longer I am exposed to someone with an accent that I have to work with the greater the chance
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesI happen to agree with this view (if you don't want to hear a joke, don't hang around and listen to it). I have an interesting harassment story from 1986... I was working for United Technologies, and I inherited a desk in an office that housed two programmers. The office was kind of divided into two halves by a row of filing cabinets that essentially blocked both desks from direct view if you happened to be standing in the doorway. On the hidden side of the filing cabinets, a swimsuit calendar (from Cisco I think) was hanging - it was there BEFORE I occupied the desk, and the month had not been advanced since early in the year (the desk had been empty for two months before I even started at the company). Well, it happens that a female employee (a thoroughly unattractive one, at that) came in to ask me a question, and I hadn't even noticed that she saw the calendar. She didn't say anything about it. The next day, I was called out on the carpet for having the calendar, even though I had nothing to do with it being there. Now, let's talk about bullshit workplace issues. If you don't like the calendar, don't freakin' look at it!
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesSomeone overhears (read: is listening in, not minding their own business) a phone call a couple of cubes over where someone else is talking about their date last night that went well. The eavesdropper gets offended. Hey, anyone remember the days when
MYOBactually meant something...? We used to tell it to other busybody kids in the schoolyard when they were listening in on stuff. Peace!-=- James
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shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesMy son told me this joke... "What do you call a black man who flies a plane?" "I don't know. What DO you call a black man who flies a plane?" "A Pilot you racist bastard!" Ho Ho Ho!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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I happen to agree with this view (if you don't want to hear a joke, don't hang around and listen to it). I have an interesting harassment story from 1986... I was working for United Technologies, and I inherited a desk in an office that housed two programmers. The office was kind of divided into two halves by a row of filing cabinets that essentially blocked both desks from direct view if you happened to be standing in the doorway. On the hidden side of the filing cabinets, a swimsuit calendar (from Cisco I think) was hanging - it was there BEFORE I occupied the desk, and the month had not been advanced since early in the year (the desk had been empty for two months before I even started at the company). Well, it happens that a female employee (a thoroughly unattractive one, at that) came in to ask me a question, and I hadn't even noticed that she saw the calendar. She didn't say anything about it. The next day, I was called out on the carpet for having the calendar, even though I had nothing to do with it being there. Now, let's talk about bullshit workplace issues. If you don't like the calendar, don't freakin' look at it!
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001True story - I know of someone that had to remove a family vacation picture...
Because his wife was in a bikini in the photo!Ceezus Jeist... 'Ya know, it is not his problem that his wife is more attractive than most of the other people in the company! Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesmodified on Monday, November 3, 2008 9:15 AM
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My son told me this joke... "What do you call a black man who flies a plane?" "I don't know. What DO you call a black man who flies a plane?" "A Pilot you racist bastard!" Ho Ho Ho!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
I deeply offended and am going to report you... :) Peace!
-=- James
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James R. Twine wrote:
OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?
Unfortunately I have to work hard NOT to pick up accents. I know it bothers people, but the longer I am exposed to someone with an accent that I have to work with the greater the chance
I'm the same, although I was brought up around varying accents. Both parents from Sheffield, so when I'm up north, it switch fast and naturally, however I was raised in the south and that's where I live now and that's how most people hear me. They think I'm pretty weird when as soon as I hit the Yorkshire borders it's all e-by-gum :laugh:
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I deeply offended and am going to report you... :) Peace!
-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
I deeply offended and am going to report you
What for a bad sense of humour? Where would we be without humour? Answer: Germany! :-D
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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I'm the same, although I was brought up around varying accents. Both parents from Sheffield, so when I'm up north, it switch fast and naturally, however I was raised in the south and that's where I live now and that's how most people hear me. They think I'm pretty weird when as soon as I hit the Yorkshire borders it's all e-by-gum :laugh:
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
Yorkshire? That's practically Scotland! I live well south of the Watford Gap!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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James R. Twine wrote:
Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?
Yup, I agree....But unfortunately, I can't really say what I really think here in case I offend someone. Best saved for the soap box. What's the difference between women and....oh no...hang on.....women won't like that....what's the biggest cause of.....oh.....not that one either....An English man, an.....nope, racist...A dyslexic man walks into....Dammit all the best jokes are offensive.
Simon
That's the nature of humor.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesI feel your pain. We had the same thing here at work about 2 weeks ago. By the end of the session I was left thinking that, other than mumbling "Yes" or "No", just don't talk to anyone at work. It's simpler.
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shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesAbout touching...
Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?What?
**_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!Just observe it and be offended?! I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit] I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!! Peace!-=- James
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Yorkshire? That's practically Scotland! I live well south of the Watford Gap!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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About touching...
Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?What?
**_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!Just observe it and be offended?! I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit] I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!! Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesFlipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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I live in Aylesbury these days, any further south and my extended (northern) family will probably beat me :laugh:
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
Eh yup. Thar Phannon as become yon southern bastard! :laugh:
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Flipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:
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Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
origin.OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner? Peace!
-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?
Yes, in a humorous way.
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Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:
Conversely, they don't know the things I do with mine! :-D
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesIt's all complete bollocks: people are not easily offended: they're easily driven to a lawsuit.
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shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesWell, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim
